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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Having charging problem again

This is a continuation from my last post"Don't have a clue".I thought i had my problem fixed.the truck starts now but it runs at a low idle,rough and wants to stall.The parts i replaced are as follows:battery(tested,found it was frozen).new alternator(got it tested,failed).new solinoid and positive battery cable.After changing all of that i started it,no high idle when cold,while idling the alt gauge would move back and forth then go to the low side does'nt move even when the engine is reved up and the battery light has come on.Is there a sensor involved in this problem,could the ECM or spark control modual be related?I looked at a wiring diagram in my repair manual and there is a green/red wire from the alternator that goes to the gauge in the dash,in this wire is a fuse link(as per manual)opened it and did not find a fuse.it looks like male/female connector.why would the gauge work then stop and the battery light come on?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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A fuse link means the wire is a fuse. Try to get a volt meter so that when Dave asks you to test you will be ready.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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What year and model truck?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
What year and model truck?
1990 f150 xlt 5.0 litre 4x4
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Is there a sensor involved in this problem,could the ECM or spark control modual be related?
No the ECM or ICM have nothing to do with the charging system.
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I looked at a wiring diagram in my repair manual and there is a green/red wire from the alternator that goes to the gauge in the dash,in this wire is a fuse link(as per manual)opened it and did not find a fuse.it looks like male/female connector.why would the gauge work then stop and the battery light come on?
There is not any fuse or fuse link between the Alternator and the dash gauge on the LG/R wire. The dash gauge is fed from the Ignition Switch and the Ignition Switch is fed by a fuse link but if this fuse link is open the entire Ignition Switch would be dead.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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I would first take a voltage reading at the battery with the truck running. It should be around 14v. If your idle is a little low, it may be around 13v but it should read higher than the reading with truck off.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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I did a test with a volt meter,with the truck not running i got 12.13 volts and when running i got 11.71 volts.Before doing this the new alternator i got it tested just to make sure it was not a lemon,it passed!could i have a broken wire going to one of the two connectors to the alternator?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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With the engine off, make sure you have 12v on the large output wire or wires leaving the alternator. If you don't the fusible link is burned out in that wire.

You should also have a green/red wire going to the alternator. It should have power with the key in run, and no power with the key off. Also make sure the plug is not melted where the smaller wires plug in.

If all that checks out, I would take the alternator back to the store to be checked again. You will not be the first person to have trouble with a new alternator.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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I checked the large output wire with eng off i got 11.80 volts,green red wire had 11.36 volts in run and no power with key off.Had alternator checked again and it's good,so now what?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Here's a diagram.


You checked the black/orange wires and they had battery voltage, so that fusible link is good.

You checked the lightgreen/red with the key on and off and thats working.

Make sure you have battery voltage on the yellow/white wire with the truck off.

Make sure the white/black jumper is in place.

You also may have the alternator that is famous for melting the plug that plugs into the alternator. Make sure it looks ok, I think you can buy replacement plugs with pigtails made onto them to splice the wires.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Autozone has the connectors. Discovered mine was one big melted glob when the bearig in the alternator went bad. Still charged fine and really had o scratch my head over that.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Checked yellow/white wire,it had 11.80 volts with key off.The white /black wire is there. I checked both plugs at the alternator and they are fine,look good not melted at all
 
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Check the resistance from the frame of the alternator to the NEG post of the battery and if it is less than 5 ohms replace the alternator.
If it is more than 5 ohms clean your ground cable from th NEG post of the battery to the engine block.
You do not just have the ground cable of the battery going to the frame do you?
If you do it is wrong and needs to be changed.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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I checked the ohms and i got between 4 and 6 ohms,as for the ground wire it is grounded to the body.there is also two other wires that are grounded in that same spot those wires come out of a bundle that i think go back to the alternator.To change the location of the ground(s) what is the minimum gauge wire i should use.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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You do not have a ground wire from the NEG battery post going to the engine?
Where does the large wire that is hooked to the NEG post go to?
If not go buy one and ground the engine.
 
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