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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Upfitter Switches

Is there any access to the upfitter switches inside the engine compartment?
If so, where are they located and accessed.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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You can tie them into the pass thru wires then tap onto them. They are against the firewall by the master cylinder.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Thanks. What I am trying to do is wire some PIAA fog lamps to an upfitter switch and wondered if this could be done totally in the engine compartment. Or would I have to pass the power wire through the firewall to connect to the upfitter wire.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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The problem with the pass-thru wires, is they are only big enough for the 10A upfitters. Ford should have given us two 16ga, and two 12 gauge, but they didn't. Your lights probably draw too much current to use those wires.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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The problem with the pass-thru wires, is they are only big enough for the 10A upfitters. Ford should have given us two 16ga, and two 12 gauge, but they didn't. Your lights probably draw too much current to use those wires.

Could always use the supplied relay and then the wire won't be a factor.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Could always use the supplied relay and then the wire won't be a factor.

Yep, and use one of the low current upfitters.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Do as Ryked said,

Wire from upfitter switch (firewall feedthru) will turn on your relay (coil). You don't have to fuse this point but make sure your wiring from the lights to the battery (or convienient source with adequate current capability) is large enough, 12 awg or better and that this point is fused.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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This is what PIAA told me to do; does it sound right? If so, which upfitter switch is correct, 10A or 30A?
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"All you do is cut the switch off and take the red wire and hook it up to the up fitter switch. Ground the black wire and do not use the white wire".
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Does the PIAA harness have a relay included in it?
Is the red wire fused and if so what size fuse?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Maybe someone who knows about the specific PIAA product can help. I don't know their product.

Is there a relay included? How many amps do the pair of lights draw?

Your upfitter #1 and 2 are 30 amp, and #3 and 4 are 10 amp. The wires that pass through the firewall are only heavy enough for the 10 amp switch. The 10 amp switch is all you will need, IF you are using a relay. But their instructions do not sound like a relay, because it would need a current source other than the upfitter switch.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Sounds like you are new to wiring - so, there are some helpful diagrams in this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...with-pics.html

What you are doing is similar, the lights just happen to be on the front instead of the rear.

Also, I wrote this when I installed my upffiters. The second and third photo from the bottom might help you find the wires. http://www.billpounds.com/truck/upfi...rsInstall.html
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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The red wire to the upfitter switch is not fused and draws 3 amps.

The wiring harness is fused and the lamps draw 7 amps each.
 
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Photos very helpful; thanks alot.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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How do you remove the cigarette sized storage bin next to the upfitter switches? I see that there are two tabs at the top (inside) but I can't get the bin to come out.
 
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