Ford Towing Guide Sucks!
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Ford Towing Guide Sucks!
My 2008 F-250, Supercab,XLT,LongBed,6.4L is shown in the Ford Towing Guide as being capable of towing a 15,600 lb Fith Wheel. The GCWR is 23,000 lbs., the GVWR is 10,000 lbs. The tire loading info sticker states that weight of occupants & cargo cannot exceed 2082 lbs. Rear GAWR is 6,100 lbs.
Doing the required calculations and considering pin weight (15 %/ of trailer weight), fuel and passengers (450lbs.), 5th wheel hitch (about 400lbs) that means all I can tow is about 9,100 lb. fifth wheel. How does Ford come up with 15,600 lbs.?
Doing the required calculations and considering pin weight (15 %/ of trailer weight), fuel and passengers (450lbs.), 5th wheel hitch (about 400lbs) that means all I can tow is about 9,100 lb. fifth wheel. How does Ford come up with 15,600 lbs.?
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well, had to go out and look at mine. It says should never exceed. so if you are working against that principle of occupants and cargo, which you say is a total of 850 lbs, then take that minus the the 23, 000 lbs =22150, minus truckwt (well use mine as I know what it weight 8100 lbs= trailer wt of 14,050.
remember the not all the trailer is on the truck
remember the not all the trailer is on the truck
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Trailer is not cargo, only what is in the bed of the truck/occupants.
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Going back to your post at 09:23...you say you can pull a trailer of 14,050lbs...taking 15% of that as pin weight (2107 lbs) you are exceeding the Tire & Loading Limit.
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Was just using your figures so that is why I was off. Best thing to do is to weigh your truck emtpy and then with the trailer if possible so you can get a more accurate idea.
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the op has two things going here. payload vs towing capacity. So that complicates the issue.
What I was trying to get him to understand was the difference. Not sure I was successful.
What I was trying to get him to understand was the difference. Not sure I was successful.
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I think you were and good info. I was just pointing out that there can be huge differences between what Ford advertises as payload and what you actually have available depending upon options, etc. I was shocked at some of the payloads in that thread in the '09 F-150 forum.
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Yea I guess I'm hung up on the payload/pin weight issue. There is no way my truck can haul a 15,600 lb fifth wheel (as advertised) if you follow the 15% to 25% allowance for pin weight which would result in pin weight of between 2,340 and 3,900 lbs. It still seems that the max fifth wheel would weigh about 9,100 lbs.
What am I missing here?
What am I missing here?