stock type flip shackle
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stock type flip shackle
OK this is either one of the dumbest or smartest things I've thought of. On my 82 f100 the rear leafs are only 2 1/2" and the flip shackle kits I've found are for 3". This truck was a 2wd but I put the ttb front end in it and now have a 4wd. Would it be possible to take off the stock shackles and put the left one upside down on the right and vice versa or am I a moron for thinking that would work. I guess the only other option would be to get a set of 3" leafs for the back then buy the sky manufacturing shackle flip kit. Thanks in advance for the help guys.
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Several ways to accomplish this. If you are only looking for a couple of iinches of lift, you can do exactly what you stated. Look at the amount of rise the stock hanger has and you can see that fliping it upside down will not net a great deal of lift. Now, look at the front hanger, and imagine this being placed in the back. You have a few options here. You can use a hanger like the one on the front of the leaf spring and gain mad amounts of lift, or find a hanger that does not have so much lift, and tune in your desired ride heigth. Stock hangers are used all of the time, and as a little hint, chebbies also use the same width spring, so these hangers will work also.
Stock style front hanger will not have the offset to compensate for the tension style shackle, and cant permit a bunch of lift. This is a pic of a front hanger used to hange the shackle from.
This nets just over 4 inches of lift by itself.
Stock style front hanger will not have the offset to compensate for the tension style shackle, and cant permit a bunch of lift. This is a pic of a front hanger used to hange the shackle from.
This nets just over 4 inches of lift by itself.
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Rough stuff specialties makes a flip kit for 2.5" springs
Full Sized Shackle Flip Kit [FORDFLIP] - $185.00
Full Sized Shackle Flip Kit [FORDFLIP] - $185.00
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Great info guys that is what I was wanting to know. So here is another question how hard is it to do a sas from the ttb i have, btw it was a 2wd truck will that make a difference, and what is a good donor for a solid axle?
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Hey guys I have looked everywhere around here at the parts stores and online and can't find a front shackle. I guess I could get one off of a truck at the j yard but i really don't feel like having to grind off the rivets and stuff, and I dont really know how I would get a grinder 1/2 a mile back in the field where the fords sit. Does anyone know of a vender or website I can order a set from?
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Your local dearlership will not only have access o brand new ones, but they will have them in stock. Body shops are a good source too. Often when a truck is hit, these bends and have to be replaced.
As far as using a 1/2 mile extension cord, cordless grinders work wonders.
I can get these off in no time at all. Still a bit of a dirty job though.
Make sure you get a "spring hanger" and not a shackle as you stated. Nomenclature is important here, and you may get the wrong part if you are asking for it incorrecly.
As far as using a 1/2 mile extension cord, cordless grinders work wonders.
I can get these off in no time at all. Still a bit of a dirty job though.
Make sure you get a "spring hanger" and not a shackle as you stated. Nomenclature is important here, and you may get the wrong part if you are asking for it incorrecly.
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Yea I've never been good with part names so I always make sure I can at least look at a picture of the parts before I order. I guess I'll go to the Ford dealership this weekend and see if they can get one. Thanks for the info man.
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Question on flip shackles
Besides Chevy and Ford being the difference.
Whats the difference in leaf springs on both...
Would it be possible to take a 4'inch lift flip shackle (http://diy4x.com/images/shflipkit.jpg ) from a chevy (73-87) and place 8' inch lift leaf springs off a 99-04 superduty? Or...
Could you use 12' inch lift leaf springs from a chevy (72-91 straight axle) on a 99-04 superduty?
(trying to frankinstein a lift and was wondering what can be used with out major weilding.)
Whats the difference in leaf springs on both...
Would it be possible to take a 4'inch lift flip shackle (http://diy4x.com/images/shflipkit.jpg ) from a chevy (73-87) and place 8' inch lift leaf springs off a 99-04 superduty? Or...
Could you use 12' inch lift leaf springs from a chevy (72-91 straight axle) on a 99-04 superduty?
(trying to frankinstein a lift and was wondering what can be used with out major weilding.)
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While this is a creative thought it is a little out of the ball park. Honestly, you do not need all that much lift in the rear. What I mean is that most fellas get all excited about comparing lift numbers, and this becomes more of a contest than a realistic approach to gaining some lift.
I run a bone stock 64 inch long chebby rear spring with my mild shackle flip, and clear 39.5" boggers. I am talking bone stock leafs with zero lift.
Anyway, you can use any spring you want, really, one just has to realize that a spring is not vehicle specific. A spring will maintain a given rate regardless of what it is suspending.
Important factors are the spring eye measurements, spring width, arch, and rate, alignment pin offset. Not all springs have the alignment pin located in the center of the spring.
I run a bone stock 64 inch long chebby rear spring with my mild shackle flip, and clear 39.5" boggers. I am talking bone stock leafs with zero lift.
Anyway, you can use any spring you want, really, one just has to realize that a spring is not vehicle specific. A spring will maintain a given rate regardless of what it is suspending.
Important factors are the spring eye measurements, spring width, arch, and rate, alignment pin offset. Not all springs have the alignment pin located in the center of the spring.
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While this is a creative thought it is a little out of the ball park. Honestly, you do not need all that much lift in the rear. What I mean is that most fellas get all excited about comparing lift numbers, and this becomes more of a contest than a realistic approach to gaining some lift.
I run a bone stock 64 inch long chebby rear spring with my mild shackle flip, and clear 39.5" boggers. I am talking bone stock leafs with zero lift.
Anyway, you can use any spring you want, really, one just has to realize that a spring is not vehicle specific. A spring will maintain a given rate regardless of what it is suspending.
Important factors are the spring eye measurements, spring width, arch, and rate, alignment pin offset. Not all springs have the alignment pin located in the center of the spring.
I run a bone stock 64 inch long chebby rear spring with my mild shackle flip, and clear 39.5" boggers. I am talking bone stock leafs with zero lift.
Anyway, you can use any spring you want, really, one just has to realize that a spring is not vehicle specific. A spring will maintain a given rate regardless of what it is suspending.
Important factors are the spring eye measurements, spring width, arch, and rate, alignment pin offset. Not all springs have the alignment pin located in the center of the spring.
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Here's some info for helping design a leaf suspension when you aren't using "stock" parts. This shows the spring lengths, spring rate, as well as the pin location:
Leaf Springs for Light Duty Trucks
Just select the manufacturer, and surf for hours
Leaf Springs for Light Duty Trucks
Just select the manufacturer, and surf for hours
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hey 82 100 u dont have to use a grinder u could use a drill with a drill bit just center it with a smaller bit and get bigger till it falls off this is the the im doing mine as the drill doesnt trow sparks and im sittin next to the gas tank
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And to the OP, if you can borrow a cordless grinder or sawzall, it's not too bad getting the 8 rivets off. Just cut at 'em and take a punch and a mini-sledge and they'll pop right through. Not a ton of fun, but I'm sure much cheaper to buy wheels/blades instead of new hangers from the dealership.
Oh, and Ed, what were the hangers you used for yours from? They look more like the ones in the 90s trucks (or did they come with the Chebby springs?).