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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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APCM/AIC High Idle Mod

I have searched the forums for information on this mod. There are some good posts on how to hook up a high idle control to the TPS (accelerator pedal), but I was wondering if anyone had done a setup using the factory APCM harness.

The factory harness has 4 wires: black-ground. red/yellow-switched power. pink/light blue-pcm/OBDII --. tan/orange-pcm/OBDII +. As best I can tell, the switched power and ground wires are for controlling an electrically actuated PTO. The other two wires connect directly to the PCM and I am guessing that they are the RPM control. If an OBDII diagnostic module can control RPM from the port, the same mechanism should do it from the two wires in the APCM wiring harness.

Does anyone know how the diagnostic tool controls RPM? I would expect that a variable resistance would work if it is analog, but a more sophisticated device would be necessary if it were digital. Does anyone know if there is a risk of doing damage by putting a pot accross the two control wires to test?

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:04 AM
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I have searched the forums for information on this mod. There are some good posts on how to hook up a high idle control to the TPS (accelerator pedal), but I was wondering if anyone had done a setup using the factory APCM harness.

The factory harness has 4 wires: black-ground. red/yellow-switched power. pink/light blue-pcm/OBDII --. tan/orange-pcm/OBDII +. As best I can tell, the switched power and ground wires are for controlling an electrically actuated PTO. The other two wires connect directly to the PCM and I am guessing that they are the RPM control. If an OBDII diagnostic module can control RPM from the port, the same mechanism should do it from the two wires in the APCM wiring harness.

Does anyone know how the diagnostic tool controls RPM? I would expect that a variable resistance would work if it is analog, but a more sophisticated device would be necessary if it were digital. Does anyone know if there is a risk of doing damage by putting a pot accross the two control wires to test?

Thanks,
I put a PTO on an '08 F450 with 6.4 and 5R110, about a year ago. It only used a few wires for the control. It would ramp up slowly to a preset rpm. I'll see if I can dig up the wiring diagram and see if it works the same on our trucks. I've done alot of sleeping since then and don't remember the details.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Thanks Roland. I have done more reading since and think I am brave enough to put a rheostat between the two PCM/OBDII wires. I have not found any information on what they do on the earlier trucks, but the 08 information I have found looks like among the many circuits they have added, there are still the two + and - wires to control engine speed with a rheostat. The only joker will be if I need 12V power somewhere to trick the PCM into thinking that a PTO is engaged, but I have not found that input in the connector wiring diagram.

If this works, it will be great because it will use existing wiring and I won't need to cut the wires to the "gas" pedal.
 
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