Salesmen today...
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Salesmen today...
Forgot to post when this happened, I thought of it today and it made me chuckle! I had the fan blower resistor on my F-150 go out last week, so I ordered one from the local dealer in town. It was beautiful out and the dash was all apart on the truck, so i took the Ranchero for a spin. Drove to the dealer and i got the attention of some of the salesmen on their smoke breaks. (their latest tactic and the oldest one is to ambush you as soon as you get out of your car.) It kind of caught them off guard to see an antique on their lot. Only 1 out of the 5 that were out there recognized it as a Ford, the rest said "no thats an el camino!" When i told the ones that were confused that it was indeed a ford and that The ranchero was introduced BEFORE an el camino was even concieved, they looked at me with bewilderment. One gentleman asked if i was there to trade it in. They HATE to hear that you are going to the parts dept!! Figured this story might get a chuckle out of someone 
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Here it is, dont let the paint job fool ya its mechanically perfect, i put new tires on it and it only has 31,600 miles on it. I bought this car not running from a desperate seller (lost his storage space) for $1,500. The way it is now i could probably get 3,500-4,000 as is. But If you can find a fully restored, low milage 60-66 Falcon ranchero they go for as much as 20,000! You could probably find a decent runner that needs minor restoration for around 4,000. Like i said, mine didn't run and to get it drivable i had to rebuild the carb, replace steel fuel lines and have the tank boiled out (due fuel sitting in there for many years), bleed and overhaul the brake system, complete new exhaust system (again rusted out from sitting) re wire the gas gauge and replace the sender and other little things. When i am all done and shes all pretty i plan on insuring it for around $8-10,000.
PS: I know that the taillights are incorrect for this car, these are from a 67, the originals were stolen when the previous owner had it stored in a seedy part of town. I have correct ones but havent installed them yet.
PS: I know that the taillights are incorrect for this car, these are from a 67, the originals were stolen when the previous owner had it stored in a seedy part of town. I have correct ones but havent installed them yet.
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Thats why I like my little country farm town ford dealer, there's never an ambush. They give you time to look aound on the lot for a while before some one will come out. I guess a ranchero isn't something you see everyday. Actually, it would be a good time to bring it back out. Everyone wants a truck, but wants the mpg of a car. The fusion would make a sharp looking ranchero.
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Yep, as soon as you park, they come out!! Never used to be like that, even if you sneak in their back lot to look at the trucks they have closed circuit tv cameras there and they look for people TRYING to be left alone to browse. The dealers been in my town since the early 70's and their parts guys been there since the beginning and is very knowlegeable. Once i went to the parts dept, all greasy and dirty with an alternator in my hand and a salesman asked me "why i was wasting my time buying parts when i could drive off with a new one with only my signature" Tony the parts guy chased him off for me!
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I know why they ambush you, I sold car's for a year back in 04. You got 5 salesmen and 1 customer all working off commsion. Then the salesmaneger yells at you if you leave a customer to browse on there own. I couldn't handle it, too much presure on the salesmen, not to mention the poor customers. The ford dealership I deal with have had the same sales people for years, they don't have a high turn over rate. It's just a different enviroment than at the big volume dealers. The crappy part about it was, you only made a 100.00$ on every new car you sold. A good salesman would sell 12 cars a month. You made a lot more on used cars compared to new. The average was 600.00$ on a used car, but could go up to as much as 2,000$, depends on mark up. New cars were 100.00$ cut and dried.
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Very nice . Happy to see you want it to be original and correct. The value will go up up up . thanks for the pictures. The mercury outboard in the picture caught my eye. I just restored a 1960 mercury 35 myself see avatar.
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Not to take it too far off topic, But old Mercury out boards are the best!.....Fastest, best sounding, real reliable....Leave the new 4 strokes far behind on top end!, stuck with a Evinrude now but its still pretty good......Back on topic, Our Ford dealer is strategically set up so EVERYONE must pass thru the sales, "ambush zone" to get to any other part of the dealership......Do not hesitate or slow down on the way to parts dept, or at least one salesman will attach himself to your rig!.
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wendell,
The last new truck purchased, at a huge dealership owned by Penske, the salesman only got $75. They cut his check on the spot and he showed it to me. Maybe they have some additional bonus system based on monthly totals. I hope so.
The commissioned job at a dealership that looks more attractive is F&I. Service writers must also make more than salesmen, but have to deal with irate customers when the car isnt fixed right or the warranty claim is denied.
At many dealerships, when I walk on to the lot and actually want to look at new vehicles, I start asking very specific questions and most of the inexperienced ones quickly escort me to the fleet manager's office. Those sales experiences have actually been pleasant.
Jim
The last new truck purchased, at a huge dealership owned by Penske, the salesman only got $75. They cut his check on the spot and he showed it to me. Maybe they have some additional bonus system based on monthly totals. I hope so.
The commissioned job at a dealership that looks more attractive is F&I. Service writers must also make more than salesmen, but have to deal with irate customers when the car isnt fixed right or the warranty claim is denied.
At many dealerships, when I walk on to the lot and actually want to look at new vehicles, I start asking very specific questions and most of the inexperienced ones quickly escort me to the fleet manager's office. Those sales experiences have actually been pleasant.
Jim
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wendell,
At many dealerships, when I walk on to the lot and actually want to look at new vehicles, I start asking very specific questions and most of the inexperienced ones quickly escort me to the fleet manager's office. Those sales experiences have actually been pleasant.
Jim
At many dealerships, when I walk on to the lot and actually want to look at new vehicles, I start asking very specific questions and most of the inexperienced ones quickly escort me to the fleet manager's office. Those sales experiences have actually been pleasant.
Jim
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That merc is a 1967 110 (9.9 hp). It was abandoned by a customer and im trying to get my boss to let me have it, thats why its in my area lol!
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That's the way it is at my local Ford Dealer.
My son and I went shopping for a new Edge, for him.
Since it was drizzling rain, we drove around the front lot, looking for an "SEL" with Vista Roof.
These salesmen would not walk 50 feet to where the Edge(s) were parked.
Each one got into a car and drove to us.
My wife was with us, and she walked to the showroom and asked for the most experienced salesman.
The 'vultures' as my wife called them, didn't get any scraps.
A very nice guy sold my son a Bee-Eee-Aaa-Uuu-Tee-Full dark gray Edge SEL. (And he got one GREAT deal, too!)
Just in case he's reading this. . .
Thanks, Woody!!!!