which filter for E4OD
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Cargo Master
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which filter for E4OD
Rockauto carries ACDELCO, ATP, Fram, and Wix. Is there any difference between them quality wise? Prices are within a few bucks ($21 - $27) so that doesn't make much of a difference.
Also, I noticed that they show the ATP JX150 inline magnetic filter. I thought that most of the debris and dirt in the ATF would be non-magnetic (clutch or yellow metal) so a magnetic filter wouldn't make a big difference.
Lastly, if the tranny (E4OD) starts slipping, can I add some F to alleviate slipping? It has 228k on it, and I really want it to last until the summer.
TIA
Also, I noticed that they show the ATP JX150 inline magnetic filter. I thought that most of the debris and dirt in the ATF would be non-magnetic (clutch or yellow metal) so a magnetic filter wouldn't make a big difference.
Lastly, if the tranny (E4OD) starts slipping, can I add some F to alleviate slipping? It has 228k on it, and I really want it to last until the summer.
TIA
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As for the trans filter I don`t have an E4OD but have read too many posts from guys who did the trans service with an after market filter only to have it drop down later and cause all sorts of problems.
If it was me I would only use OEM. Try ftepartsguy.com or DirectFordParts.com for a quote.
If it was me I would only use OEM. Try ftepartsguy.com or DirectFordParts.com for a quote.
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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The friction materials in the clutches work against steel separator plates. Small filings from these plates are worn off over time, so there are small steel particles suspended in the ATF.
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Cargo Master
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Yeah, you're right.
Anyhow, I just got my filter (looked up one day, it wasn't even in the Fedex system, 2 days later it was at my door with the cheapest shipping!!) . It's the ATP B-172, and on the box it says: "Transmission Oil Filters should be replaced every 12,000 miles".
Where do they get that number?
I noticed that while the ATF looked OK on the dipstick, when I sucked out a quart just to test my 12V oil pump, it looked bad.
Anyhow, I just got my filter (looked up one day, it wasn't even in the Fedex system, 2 days later it was at my door with the cheapest shipping!!) . It's the ATP B-172, and on the box it says: "Transmission Oil Filters should be replaced every 12,000 miles".
Where do they get that number? I noticed that while the ATF looked OK on the dipstick, when I sucked out a quart just to test my 12V oil pump, it looked bad.
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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They get that number because they sell filters. Ford doesn't have a recommended mileage to change the filter. They only require a filter change at a rebuild.
I've personally inspected a filter that had 369,000 miles on it. It came out of an ambulance with an E4OD. The only reason the trans was torn down was the vehicle was totalled. There were maintenance records for this trans from day one. It had never been serviced. The filter was fine. It was not clogged, but there was a small amount of debris in it.
I've personally inspected a filter that had 369,000 miles on it. It came out of an ambulance with an E4OD. The only reason the trans was torn down was the vehicle was totalled. There were maintenance records for this trans from day one. It had never been serviced. The filter was fine. It was not clogged, but there was a small amount of debris in it.
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Cargo Master
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369k?!?! Not bad at all! 
I guess that partly answers my previous question about the E4OD design life.
So maybe I can wait a few more years before finding a ZF5 for my Bronco.
Anyhow, we had one not rainy day over the weekend, so I finally did it. (raining/snowing ever since, BTW
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The 12V oil pump I bought specifically for this turned out to be rather useful, after all.
Here's a link to a few pics: my first ever oil change - dslreports.com in case someone wants to do it.
I guess that partly answers my previous question about the E4OD design life.
So maybe I can wait a few more years before finding a ZF5 for my Bronco.
Anyhow, we had one not rainy day over the weekend, so I finally did it. (raining/snowing ever since, BTW
) The 12V oil pump I bought specifically for this turned out to be rather useful, after all.
Here's a link to a few pics: my first ever oil change - dslreports.com in case someone wants to do it.
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I have a e4od with 226k on it... about to do the service this weekend... hoping everything goes as well as yours did
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Good luck with it -- it's a relatively easy job, though an extra set of hands can be very useful when removing the pan.
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