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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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AC brackets on a FE

Does anyone know where I can find the A/C brackets for a 390 engine. The ones I was supplied at the junk yard don't work.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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i dont know if lmc, dennis carpenter, or bronco graveyard carry anything like that,,,you could give it a shot,,or try the junkyard again,,pull the mounts yourself though otherwise you dont know what they are giving you
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dobie6982
Does anyone know where I can find the A/C brackets for a 390 engine. The ones I was supplied at the junk yard don't work.
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I doubt any of the reproduction parts sellers will have any A/C brackets, as the demand is slight, and there's myriad different ones.

As I see it you have three choices: Junkyard, or NOS parts from an obsolete parts vendor, or a Ford Dealer.

About what year is the engine? What is it installed in?

What brackets do you need? Please be specific.

I can look up all the part numbers, then search for them, also tell you what years will fit, and if any are the same as passenger cars.

 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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It's a 1976 F-150 4x4 Custom with a 360. I need all the brackets for the compressor and the idler arm or anything else that bolts to the engine for a a/c set up. I pulled everything else out of a 77 F-150 but it had a 351M in it so I was not able to pull any brackets. Thanks for anything you can pull up. my eyes are hurting from all these websites and searches.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dobie6982
It's a 1976 F-150 4x4 Custom with a 360. I need all the brackets for the compressor and the idler arm or anything else that bolts to the engine for a a/c set up. I pulled everything else out of a 77 F-150 but it had a 351M in it so I was not able to pull any brackets. Thanks for anything you can pull up. my eyes are hurting from all these websites and searches.
I'm going to ask another member to post the parts catalog illustration of all the engine A/C components in detail.

This will be for a 1973/75, but the parts are the same for a 1976.

This way you can pick out the parts you need, then I will try and find the stuff.

I cannot do this because I'm using the catalog on microfiche.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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1973/75 360/390 V8 (FE) Air conditioning brackets.

 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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I have a complete set of the brackets and the compressor. The idler pulleys need new bearings, and I am not sure about the operating condition of the compressor, but at least I know it's exactly what you are looking for. Where are you located, dobie?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtie_Schmowtie
The idler pulleys need new bearings, and I am not sure about the operating condition of the compressor.
Did you notice the parts catalog illustration showing the idler pulleys?

See any bearings? You won't, because...

The bearings are only furnished with the complete idler pulley assemblies, basic part numbers 8678.

If the compressor's fittings are uncapped (or not taped over) for more than a couple of weeks, the compressor will be no good.

Once moisture gets into the compressor, or any other location that has fittings or where two parts come together like the dryer to the condenser, or the expansion valve to the evaporator core, the ENTIRE A/C system must be evacuated as a unit...ASAP, or these parts are HISTORY!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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Geez...I stand corrected.

The idler pulley bearings are bad, and the compressor is good for parts.

Better?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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I have a set of brackets off of a 1970 f100 that had a 390 in it. Let me know if you want them.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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I am in nortwest Alabama I can get the idler at O'riely's. I for sure want the brackets, just let me know how you want to handle that. I have a good compressor or at least I think its good. Thanks so much for all your help.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Did you notice the parts catalog illustration showing the idler pulleys?

See any bearings? You won't, because...

The bearings are only furnished with the complete idler pulley assemblies, basic part numbers 8678.
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I know it may come as a suprise, but there are parts available for these trucks from places other than the Ford dealer.

If the bearing will come out of the pulley, you can most likely match up through an industrial parts supplier. There are even complete bearing sheaves available through the same places or even a decent auto parts store.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
If the compressor's fittings are uncapped (or not taped over) for more than a couple of weeks, the compressor will be no good.

Once moisture gets into the compressor, or any other location that has fittings or where two parts come together like the dryer to the condenser, or the expansion valve to the evaporator core, the ENTIRE A/C system must be evacuated as a unit...ASAP, or these parts are HISTORY!
I can tell you spent your entire career around those dealership service writers and techs. Thats why those dealership repair costs are 3 times as much as an independent shop because of the "replace it all" mentality.

The compressor isn't going to be junk in a couple of weeks because of an open system. Maybe more like a couple of years. And it would probably need to be under water to collect enough moisture to ruin it in that amount of time. I've scavenged enough wrecking yard York compressors to know better. Now the receiver/dryer or accumulator is another story. But they are designed to collect moisture and need to be replaced on a system that has been open.

Any time the system loses charge, parts have been replaced, or even on a new system install, it must be exacuated for proper A/C performance. An uncharged system is not going to "be history" because it wasn't evacuated. I've had systems blow hoses at the end of summer and not be repaired until the next A/C season. Replace the hose, the R/D, evac and recharge and it's good to go.

Jason
 
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RCrawler
I know it may come as a suprise, but there are parts available for these trucks from places other than the Ford dealer.
No kidding, really? WOW! The things one learns here on FTE.

However...the bearing is made as part of the pulley, so it cannot be bought by itself.

And the A/C info came from 50 + years of experience not only from dealerships, but by working on my own vehicles.

Thru June 2008, I've owned 329 cars/trucks, including 82 FoMoCo vehicles, 60 Packards and other assorted stuff.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No kidding, really? WOW! The things one learns here on FTE.
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And the A/C info came from 50 + years of experience not only from dealerships, but by working on my own vehicles.

Thru June 2008, I've owned 329 cars/trucks, including 82 FoMoCo vehicles, 60 Packards and other assorted stuff.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes I just wonder if you've forgotten. Seems that if it doesn't come out of the Ford literature or parts book, it must not be true in your eyes.

Just because the bearing isn't serviced by Ford, doesn't necessarily mean it is not replaceable or upgradeable with a new pulley. I'm not saying it is or it isn't. But don't be so quick to chastise somebody when they offer help. Unless you, yourself, have actually attempted to replace one of these bearings instead of the entire assembly in your vast dealership experience.
Sometimes and open mind and some ingenuity will go a long ways in dealing with an obsoleted part. Heck, I rebuilt a crumbling factory carburetor casting for a '29 ****** Knight out of brass and JB Weld. AFAIK, that car is still running today. Bet you would never find that authorized repair in the factory shop manual
Remember that some of the most well engineered vehicles didn't roll down an assembly line that way and weren't built by the OEM.

Wow, 329 vehicles??? And 50 years in the parts dept??? How is that relevant to actual hand-on A/C diagnosis and repair??? If you're wanting to compare credentials on this subject, I'd be happy to. PM me. But, I'm not going to do it over the forum. You better bring more experience than all those cars you've owned and those years behind the parts counter.

Bill, keep doing what you do best. But remember, those books don't hold ALL of the answers.

Jason
 
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RCrawler
Heck, I rebuilt a crumbling factory carburetor casting for a '29 ****** Knight out of brass and JB Weld. AFAIK, that car is still running today. Bet you would never find that authorized repair in the factory shop manual
Remember that some of the most well engineered vehicles didn't roll down an assembly line that way and weren't built by the OEM.
Wow, 329 vehicles??? And 50 years in the parts dept. Jason
35 years of Ford parts counter experience, been working on cars since the early 1950's, as my dad was an Olds dealer.

Back in 1958, when I removed the updraft carb from my '29 Pontiac Cabriolet, I bumped it against the inner fender splash shield, snapped that carb in two.

Used "Liguid Steel" to glue it back together...worked fine.

btw: How were the sleeve valves in your ******-Knight engine holding up?
 
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