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Getting ready to take a long road trip and thought I should rotate the tires... Fronts come off OK, but the back one are 'locked' (rusted?) on.... The tires are fairly new (5,000 miles) and I did not think they would 'stick' so soon. I had this happen a few years back and put a jack between the tire and frame and put a fair amount of tension on it and hit the opposite side (from the jack) with a 20 pound sledge hammer. It took awhile but I finally got both back wheels off.
I do not what to be on the road and have this happen (wheel locked on)
Questions...
1) is there an easier way to get the wheels 'free' with out tearing something up?
2) What is a good suggestion to spread on the wheel and hub to make it stay free? Is a thin layer of grease OK. after cleaning it up?
To free the wheel up, loosen the lug nuts just a pinch and try driving a SHORT (like 10-20 feet) distance. I wouldn't leave the lugs nuts so loose that they aren't touching the wheel... spin them on by hand. As for keeping it from happening again- anti-sieze compound between the wheel and the hub. Grease is too thick and messy.
I use antizieze to stop this from happening. I put in on the lug nuts and rim hub.
My Old truck did this to me. And recently my Toyota winter car. I loosen the lug nuts one full turn. Grab the back corner of the truck and starte rocking it form side to side. Getting a good rocking action. If that don't work, or a big rubber hammer on the rim, then Get in put in drive and go 6 feet and slam on brakes. Try that.
Napa has an extremely high-temperature lube for brake parts which you could use in a very, very thin layer - like wiping it on with a rag. It's good to something like 3,000 °F. Expensive, but good stuff.
Now that you have them off, use a wire wheel to clean off the corrosion and then use a very thin coat of grease on the flange. The grease will seal the metal from the oxygen in the atmosphere, stopping the rust.
Do NOT put grease on the lug nut threads!
1) is there an easier way to get the wheels 'free' with out tearing something up?
2) What is a good suggestion to spread on the wheel and hub to make it stay free? Is a thin layer of grease OK. after cleaning it up?
thanks
Brother Les
It's funny, a thread exactly like this was just asked in the Excursion forum the other day.
Break your lugs loose, keeping them to about finger tight, then drive around the block. Or, like my buddy Joe recommends, drive a couple figure eights and that will break the wheel free.
Anti-seize or a film of white lithium grease works well.
I always use a weeks worth of built up anger on them when I want them off.. I always look forward to the oppertunity to vent on a nice set of sticky rims.....at least that is what I tell myself..5lb sledge , tires off the ground, just below the rim..as far as to what to put on it.. I dont know, I am always worried about it warming enough to become azliquid and getting on the brakes..
Try a jack between the spring and the tire to help pop it off.
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I am not laughing..... well, I guess it is a little funny....
Backed the lugs off one full turn on both back tires and went to a parking lot. Done some figure eights.... forward and backward and slamming on the brakes a few times.... tried to slide the truck sideways....
Took the truck back to my shop and jacked it up... no change.... had to laugh.... hit both tires with a sledge and went to dinner and called it a day. I have a good jack that I can put in between the frame and wheels. Back to that tonight.
(maybe I should just take it to a garage and have 'them' rotate the X@$# tires..., no... if it is going to get tore up.. I should be the one to do it.)
I always use a weeks worth of built up anger on them when I want them off.. I always look forward to the oppertunity to vent on a nice set of sticky rims.....at least that is what I tell myself..5lb sledge , tires off the ground, just below the rim..as far as to what to put on it.. I dont know, I am always worried about it warming enough to become azliquid and getting on the brakes..
I used the same method!!! I beat the sht out of mine. I actually missed and hit the rim and that is what broke the one loose.
I knocked the big chunks off with a wire brush and threw them back on. No problems at all getting them off 6 months and 9000 miles later. I too have been afraid to put anything on them bc my brakes can get REALLY hot and I don't want grease or antisleaze getting on them. If I didn't enjoy the sledge so much I would put brake lube on them. It probably would only take one of those little tubes on the counter per wheel.
I had this happen last year. Took the truck to work and went to the trailer shop. Used a wheel puller with an air inpack to get them off. When they let loose it was like WAAMMM. They flew off the hub. I used a thin layer of plastic tape that the shop guys use on the OTR trailers. Haven't had a problem since.