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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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I recently bought an '89 F350 Crew Cab that is in desperate need of help; the problems are 1. the glow plugs are all dead, and the switch and wires are missing from the dash to the relay, 2. It burns or loses a gallon of oil every 60 miles. I've been told to be careful replacing the glow plugs as they can break off, and that a new CDR valve may cure the oil consumption. When it's running down the road it's seems to be smooth enough with no miss's or bogging down.Any suggestions????
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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You basically heard right. The CDR can cause problems of high oil consumption (or at least make them much worse) if not cleaned regularly or if its actually comming apart inside.

Also true about the glow plugs if a tip is swelled up. If you look closely at the glow plugs and can read "Beru" or "Germany" on them, then you are likely fine to remove and replace them. Have you done a continuity test on them?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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4 have continuity, 4 do not,(glow plugs), also will have to replace dash switch for glow plugs and wiring as well, have heard about a solid state controller?? Can't seem to find one anywhere.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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check for your year controller, it's solid state same as my 88
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead_Pusher
check for your year controller, it's solid state same as my 88
Wire in a push button switch instead. Do a search here, lots of threads about it with diagrams.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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push buttons are great if your the only one using the truck, but if someone else is using it they can over cycle the plugs and burn them out.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Did I read this right a gallon of oil every 60 miles if it is still running good there has to be a big leak somewhere that would be a lot fur the cdr to be the only culprit.

what dash switch is missing.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Under the right conditions, diesels an suck enough oil through the crank case vent hose to actually induce a runaway condition. Its rare, but it does happen. The CDR closes off at higher manifold vacuum settings to prevent high oil consumption, and in those more extreme cases, liquid oil getting in the intake. Maybe combine that with crusty valve seals, and I could see high oil consumption happening.

Can't say for sure if the CDR is mostly to blame for 1 gallon every 60 miles, but its not hard to check.
 
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Originally Posted by jalopy45
4 have continuity, 4 do not,(glow plugs), also will have to replace dash switch for glow plugs and wiring as well, have heard about a solid state controller?? Can't seem to find one anywhere.
Before you replace anything in the dash or the controller, make sure you have at least 7 good glow plugs. Once the head count gets down to 6, the glow plug controller will not come on at all(as they are designed).
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Got a newbie question, what is a CDR? Trying to learn all I can about these beasts.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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cdr= crank depression regulator, vent the crank case gasses back down into the motor
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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This is a CDR.



Stock Ford turbo and ATS turbo systems has it located on the drivers side rocker cover venting gasses from the rocker cover.

All NA engines have it located on the rear of the intake throat and it vents gasses from the valley pan.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks, I'm still trying to get a handle on all the abreviations.
 
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