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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Fluids - What to use???

So I have heard conflicting info. on what oil to use in the engine, transmition, transfer case and front and rear ends. So what should I use?

If the weather holds for this weekend I am wanting to replace all the fluids in the truck. It's a 1974 F100 FE390 (from a '66 Mercury), C6 auto (original to the truck), NP205, 9" rear, and Dana 44 front.

So what weights is everyone using for these applications? Also quantitys of all so I can make one trip to the parts store. Is there any advantage to running synthetics everything?

Thanks in advance,
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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I run Shell Rotella 15 40 in my 300.

Phosphorus and zinc numbers are very high in this oil.

Many debates that I won't participate in are sure to follow this post.

Murph.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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I was running straight 30 wt in the old 360 that was in it. Leaked like a stuck pig with 10w30, so running 30 wt it slowed down to a slow leak. But it didn't like that heavy of oil in the winter at -20.

I guess my biggest issue is with the C6, transfer case and front and rear ends. I just don't want to have to replace something after I just got it all put back together.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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C6- Use Dexron III or Mercon- 26.5 pints for 1974 4WD...don't forget a new filter!

T-fer case, F100 4WD- SAE140W gear oil- 1.25 pints

Dana 44-71F differential- SAE 90W gear oil- 4.75 pints
if limited slip, add friction additive EST-M2C1 18-A (add 4 oz. to rear, 2 oz. to front)

all Ford differentials- SAE 90W gear oil- 3300 & 3600-6.5 pints
3750- 7 pints


As far as engine oil, I run regular Valvoline 10W-40 in my 360.

Oil leaks? What oil leaks? That's just sweat from all those horses!!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtie_Schmowtie
C6- Use Dexron III or Mercon- 26.5 pints for 1974 4WD...don't forget a new filter!
WHOA ... That is in-correct!!

The first year Ford offered Mercon with a C6 (and C4's) was 1977.

Prior years used Type F.

Verbatum from the 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car & Light Truck Parts Catalogs:

XT-2QDX .. Automatic Transmission Fluid "MERCON" - for 1977/ Ford C6, C4 only.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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Transfer case is also incorrect. 140W will never get the thing moving

Some trucks ask to use SAE 50W motor oil, while some other ask for 80w90 gear oil.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by IZZYAZ
So I have heard conflicting info. on what oil to use in the engine, transmition, transfer case and front and rear ends. So what should I use?

If the weather holds for this weekend I am wanting to replace all the fluids in the truck. It's a 1974 F100 FE390 (from a '66 Mercury), C6 auto (original to the truck), NP205, 9" rear, and Dana 44 front.

So what weights is everyone using for these applications? Also quantitys of all so I can make one trip to the parts store. Is there any advantage to running synthetics everything?

Thanks in advance,
Me personally I switch up Viscosities due to weather changes, but I own a 460, which really shouldn't be that much different. I run thnner oil in the winter 10W30, and 15W40 in the summer.

Just like my car 10W30 in the winterand 20W-50 summer.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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OK...my fault...DexronIII/Mercon for the C6 is what it said in the book that I have at the house- it said that only the C4 uses Type F.

The good news is that now I have a real excuse to chuck it out. I've opened it three times since I've had it, and those three were only for minor things.

The 140W for the T-fer case was a typo...actually I think it said 10W40...or whatever you use in a manual trans...

Sorry for the mixup...I'll leave the numbers to the experts with the REAL manuals.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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10w40 sounds okay, but I don't think it was specced. But it's pretty close to SAE 50W.

Chilton/Haynes is full of inconsistencies. I only trust Ford literature.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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SHHHHOOOOO, glad we got that cleared up! I panicked there for a moment, and though I put the wrong fluid in my C4 a few months back, THANKS NUMBER DUMMY!!!!
 
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Question, though...if you get a rebuilt pre-77 C4 or C6, would you then use DexronIII/Mercon, or would you still have to use Type F?

I'm guessing it has to do with the band material, right?

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Good question - I'd call the shop and ask what they did in the rebuild.
 
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