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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Looking at used 7.3

I am looking at a used 7.3 complete engine for the Mighty Ford.
Owner claims, no blow by and good runner.

Is there a way to check for problems while this thing is sitting on the floor.
Owner claims 188,000 miles.

The motor in my truck now smokes like crazy and chuffs like a big dog.
I changed the injectors. Still no improvement.

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Pull the valve covers and check for play in the valves. Maybe hook a starter up and do a compression test, although that might not be the easiest thing to do on the ground. Maybe pull the injectors and GPs to see what they look like. Other than that, there's not much you can do.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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When I changed the injectors on Mighty. They were soaked with oil.
Would you say this is a bad sign if the one I'm looking at is too.
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Was it oil or were they leakers? It may be hard to tell without pop testing them.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I loosened them one at a time. I found one that did not change the sound of the motor.
That one was worse than the others.

Is that the pop test?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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No a pop test is done on a bench machine.
If it was me and you have a dead cyl I would run a compression test before I started spending money.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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No, you remove them from the engine and hook them up to a pump that gauges at what pressure they open at and what the spray pattern is.

What you did would identify either a bad injector or a bad cylinder (rings, valve or ?). You can try checking the injector line to see if it's getting hot which would be an indication that it was letting the cylinder pressure back through the injector body. The chuffing you hear, does it change when you crack one of the injectors? And is it coming from the intake or the exhaust? That would be a bad intake or exhaust valve.

Personaly, I would look for a 6.9 to replace the 7.3. I would have gone that route if I had known then what I know now.... I now have a spare 6.9 that I'll be building up for when and if I even need it.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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If the line is hot would that indicate a bad intake valve or could it be either.

There is a 6.9 available at a local junk yard. The 7.3 is cheap. I have replaced blown engines with cheap replacements and been right back in the same boat.

I know that the rebuilt are the way to go. I'm always tempted to go the cheap route.

It's a gamble. The odds are not in my favor.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Reman 7.3s are junk. Get the 6.9 and rebuild it.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Reman 7.3s are junk. Get the 6.9 and rebuild it.
Yeah, Dave S has an experience or two with bad 7.3's. If I ever replace this engine, I will get a 6.9 and go that route!!!!

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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I wish I could find or aford a 6.9 for mine. Right now I'm contemplating dropping a 99 7.3 in it that I can get for free. Still thinking about how to get it to work though.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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I know you guys know what your talking about. I'll check on the 6.9. But won't rule out doing something stupid.

I'm driving the half ton now and it works. But I need to get the Mighty going again.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Just to throw it out there, when I bought my truck, it sounded and acted exactly like your symptoms. Turned out someone had the IP off and the gear retarded a tooth. Symptoms included light throttle advance arm not making a difference in timing when pushed in, smoking in almost all driving situations and always a chuffing sound with very quiet almost non diesel knocking sound.

It had ran that way for so long that the injectors were fouled out. Took re-adjusting the timing and new injectors and the engine runs great.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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That is interesting. I just replaced the injectors. Do have some ticking. It does chuff like a bad valve. A trail of smoke that even I could not live with.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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7.3s are junk?? How come I got one with 371000miles. and the 6.9 and 7.3 are the very same, the 7.3 has bigger bores and pistons.
 
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