Anybody know where I can find a speedo drive for an 83 F-150, with a 4 speed? I bought a 300 six and a 4 speed tranny from an 83, and put it in my 66, but it came without the drive. I need the whole drive, not just the gear. The tranny in my 66 was a C6, so I can't use that one.

Thanks!

 

OK, I guess the more recent name for it is a speedometer gear housing, instead of speedo drive....Thanks!!

 

What 4 speed transmission is it?

When you say "drive" or "gear housing" what exactly are you refering to?

The speedo DRIVEN gear fits into the end of the cable, then fits into the extension housing or trans case.

 

I need the part that fits into the trans, that holds the gear, and has the threaded end for the cable to screw onto. All I have right now is a hole in the side of the trans, and a cable. Obviously, I'll need the gear, too, but they are easy to find. I have the truck version of the SROD trans.

 

I looked in the trans section under SR-OD. The speedo cable goes directly into the extension housing.

I looked in the speedometer cable section, under speedo cable adapters, nothing is shown or listed.

I suggest you visit a local dealer, I cannot find what you are looking for.

 

I just read thru the entire transmission parts list, there is nothing listed for what you are asking for.

The extension housing is threaded where the cable fits in. The cable ITSELF has threads where it screws into the housing.

If the cable you have doesn't have this feature, you have the wrong cable, or it's missing the threaded portion.

 

First, thanks VERY much for all the help. I really do appreciate it!

Well, I guess I don't have that trans then, because it definitely has just a smoothbore hole, with a threaded hole next to it for the bolt that retains the part I'm looking for. The cable I have is from the C6 that was in the truck when I got it, and it has internal threads. I identified the trans by the following: first gear is not a "granny gear"; the gear shift **** has "OD" instead of "4" in the 4th gear position; it has a "push down" access for reverse; and it came from an 83 F-150 with a 300 six. I found references in two different internet sites that listed all of these features for the SR-OD, and it was the only one I found with all these features. I have driven the truck, and it definitely has no granny gear, and is definitely an overdrive trans. (not an ideal combo with the 3.25 rear gears, but it's all I have for now). Guess I need to confirm the ID of the trans before I bug anyone else about getting parts for it....sorry guys! The trouble is, I'm 4 hours from where the truck is parked. I'll readdress this question when I have identified the trans by the tag number on it.

Thanks!

I LOVE this site!!

 

OK, with your help, figured it out. I finally found a good pic of the 83 speedo cable, and it does fit the trans I have. When you said that the cable screws into the trans, I was thinking that the fitting actually threaded into the trans. Me and my one track mind.... The cable has the end on it that plugs into the trans, then the retaining bolt goes through a tab that's attached to the end of the cable, and into the bolt hole in the trans.
Problem solved, and Oreilly has it in stock for $18. Now to figure out what speedo gear I need to match my 3.25 gears...
Thanks again!!

 

Go find my project page for my 81 F100 4x2. I list some findings about the drive/driven gears. but to sum up - the catalogs do not list the correct parts, in some cases at all. you need to obtain the left hand gear, for the rather common housing. the gears are available online from 1 source I have found, and kinda pricey. but they are listed as to going in to up to 73 vehicles....

best source for the housing is the boneyard. find a 3spd + od where the reverse is up to the left rather than down to the right (thats a start of an indication that you have an SROD and not just the regular 4spd. the srod is NOT a toploader in addition)

 

What catalogs might those be?

If you are refering to Ford parts catalogs, how do you know if they are correct or not, since you have none?

I listed all the available right hand driven gears you asked about...with the prices in that other thread.

The left hand driven gears are also available from Ford, but are not used in most applications.

 

fords - I have poured over them at my dealer. they use a software program, but the 81 SROD (which I have) is not listed as having a left hand gear. but the gear matches up with part # (its REAL hard to see on the gear) and colored tip with the older 60's-73 gears, so I got em from PATC.

thats why I asked, if you can get me left handers at the same price as right handers, Ill take one of each.

goto this link and scroll halfway down.

now look at this:

Look familiar right? those are for autos with the longer snouts.

here is the image for standard trannies:



but note these are right hand twist and wont match up to what came out of the SROD (IIRC on my page I had identifed the SROD from the cast number and the scratch plate as being built in 79/80 and installed in 81)

Now scroll on the page 90-95% down and look for 'older ford left hand gears' and this image:



The description is wrong, the SROD is not a top loader. the speedo hole is on the drivers side, not passenger side. when I took mine apart, out came the second gear from left (purple entire top and knub) I replaced it with the red top gear (21)

Im still off by 10% given what I did so I need to change my drive gear from left 7 to left 6 (whish on there but very expensive)

I had asked all this before but no one had an answer nor any parts dealer or ford dealer, except for the PATC guys.

(which goes to show you how non-often people dive into SRODs)

 

I cannot edit my previous post, but here is the post from late august where I ran into this:

 

Something is amiss.

And the parts catalogs are not stymied by anything. You (or whoever) are looking the gears up wrong or don't understand how to look 'em up.

In the first three pages in the text section of the parts catalog inre to speedo driven gears (Section 172), illustrated are all the various gears by description and type (R/H-L/H, type codes: 1, 1A, 2, 3, 3A, 3B and etc.).

Then the driven gears are looked up by the specific year, trans, tire size and axle ratio.

If there's any question on what the specific gear is, you take the part number and go back to the first three pages, find that specific part number and look for type.

By type, it will illustrate whether it has right or left hand teeth, length, etc.

There is no mention in the catalog of toploader. Ford never used that term for any trans.

Suggestion: Get your own Ford parts catalog, then you don't have to mess with the dealer.

The 1980/89 FORD LIGHT TRUCK PARTS CATALOG is available on a CD from hipoparts.com for about 25 bucks.

According to hipo (I asked), it was scanned from the last updated version.

I'm using microfiche, but it's the same catalog. Dated 10/91.

btw: You want the LIGHT catalog, the Heavy catalog is F600 and up.

 

Ok, given the info I have: 81, SROD, 215-75R15 tires, 2.47 axle - does your paper catalog point you to a 17T left hand gear?

I was under the impression the 'puter at the dealer had all this? when he first handed me a colored gear (the left hand gears are ALWAYS white with a splotch of paint) and I showed it was not it, he pawed thru some paper and got the same answer.

The only catalog that came close to date, was an online electronic one from a company that rebuilds and sells rebuild kits for manual trannies - SROD and all the RUG etc flavors. They mention a left hand gear, but dont sell them - they say go to the dealer.

no mainstream parts place (advance, zone etc) or the E-types (rock, LMC) mentions these left handers at all.

see the conundrum?

And if you can call my closest surviving Ford dealer (clarion ford) and kick them hard I appreciate it. If you follow my posts on this truck, I am becoming the "internets leading resource of what you can bolt on", 10 minutes after Ford tells you that you cannot. Remember my eulogy for ole blue? 'parts that seemingly ford forgot they designed'? I wasnt being facetious when I said that - the dealership parts counter has been significantly less than helpful and I rarely bother you...(except to get in arguments ;-)

 

C3DZ17271C .. 17T Speedometer Driven Gear / Left Hand Teeth.

MSRP: $3.07 // FTEpartsguy com price: $2.21.

Illustrated in the catalog as Type 2A.

Total time spent lookin' this puppy up...45 seconds.

Coulda shortened that up a bit, if I didn't have to get up, walk around to t'other side of the table, stepping over and around FIVE obstacles that follow me everywhere.

5 obstacles: Gideon, Ladykins, Suzee Q, Clarabelle and Gus: Basset Hounds.
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Hipoparts scanned their CD from the last printed paper edition of 10/91.

These paper catalogs are HUGE, when placed in binders can stand almost 3' tall and weigh a ton.

Try typing a part number on a laptop with that puppy resting on your lap.

I'm using the parts catalog on Ford microfiche slides.

btw: I'm not cussing out your local dealer, because it will have no effect.

Most parts personnel today are CLUCKS and are only there for a paycheck.

And...most parts personnel today are not parts personnel at all, they're computer certified techs.

All that's needed to find parts for the new vehicles today is the VIN.

Type that puppy into the system, ALL the part numbers come up.

Take that into account when you waltz in the door and ask for something the VIN system will not work on.

Now these clucks are lost, because they don't know diddly-squat, and just shine you on.

Ever had a cluck tell you a part was obsolete without lookin' it up?

Typical example. I'm glad I'm retired...otherwise I'd prolly be on death row for what I would do with todays so called parts personnel!