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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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hi, ive recently put a 6'' skyjacker suspension lift on my 1979 ford f-250 and everything works ecept for my front driveshaft. When i installed the lift i had the driveshaft extended to fit in the front. I recently got around to putting it on and it clunks and binds up when i use it. Is there anything i can do to the driveshaft to get it stop doing this?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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it souds like one side is going to need a ball and socket joint like they used on 78 broncos some times that will free them up and stop the binding or you can get a doubble u joint set up
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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simple fix..Divorce t- case. I just posted this in the superduty spring thread in here on pinion angle. Having the old style divorce it centers everything leveling out angle on front
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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i will side with the 73 ford guy a divorced trans case would work very well
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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I agree with u on the divorced tranfercase, but my truck is a 79 lowboy. I thought the divorced transfercases could only fit in the 73-77 1/2 frames?


And also to to answer "couios gorge" i already have the ballsocket and double u joint set-up on there already.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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The yokes are probably hitting at the front axle. Just grind some relief into the yokes. That cv will work with a 6" lift.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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And also to to answer "couios gorge" i already have the ballsocket and double u joint set-up on there already.
When using a CV joint (ballsocket as you call it) on a driveshaft it's important that the pinion is pointed straight at the yolk at the other end. There should be no angle at the diff u-joint while the joints in the CV head take all the angle. Lifting the truck will throw the angles out of whack causing the whole CV head to move in a circle. You can install some shims under the springs to adjust the angle and see if it helps. However, rotating the axle too much can affect the steering, particularly the natural return to center after a turn since the camber is being changed. Experiment and see what works. Also remember that as you rotate the pinion up the gap between the slip and stub on the drive shaft will close so make sure it doesn't bottom out as the suspension cycles. Let us know what happens.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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How much have you shimmed the front axle?
I run 1410's and a married case in my shortbed 73 and I do not have this issue.
Expect about 6 degrees of shim to fix the driveline issues.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by highboy1979
I agree with u on the divorced tranfercase, but my truck is a 79 lowboy. I thought the divorced transfercases could only fit in the 73-77 1/2 frames?


And also to to answer "couios gorge" i already have the ballsocket and double u joint set-up on there already.
not too sure if it is a direct fit but I do know that you can make anything work if you really want it too
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 73 ford guy
simple fix..Divorce t- case. I just posted this in the superduty spring thread in here on pinion angle. Having the old style divorce it centers everything leveling out angle on front
This is a fix for the front but it makes the rear shaft almost 2' shorter. Which end do you use more? I would rather deal with the existing issues than go through all the hassle of a conversion and have to deal with the same thing on the back. My truck has a divorced case and with its height I should put a CV on the rear. It shudders every time I hit the throttle in 2wd. The front, however, has perfect angles. All a divorced case would do is move the same issue from the front of the truck to the rear. Guys lift trucks all the time and make the shafts work properly. It might just take a little trial and error.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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yeah but the rear isnt nearly as bad. Have you seen my truck? I run about 15 inches of lift in total with a divorce tcase and 44's with a 1 ton cv rear driveshaft that is my daily driver to and to and from work and I have no shake issues. Figuring out a 6 inch lift should be a piece of cake! There is a proper way to run your driveline angles when you know what you are doing
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Here you can see the amount of wedge correction required for a lift of this size. Notice the driveshaft angle. This is my other truck and you can see that even with a married t-case and 1410 joints the angles can be kept under control.
This is a steel wedge under the spring.

 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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1410 ujoints have a very high operating angle so if your driveshaft binds that could be the way to go.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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there is a very good tech article on pirate 4x4 called"1ton cv high angle driveline" by Billa Vista. It goes into detail on ujoint sizes, max operating angles and proper diff tilting for running a cv driveshaft(1.5 degrees down from being parralell in line of shaft to alow for axle to rotate up while underload). Read it(twice if u need to) and you'll understand...
 
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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I have the same problem on mine. If yours is painted just look and see where it is hitting. I used the superduty spring and mine is just over 7" of lift and the front shaft was 2'' from even bolting to the pinion. I took the cv apart and ground down where it was hitting and added some wedge to the front axle and It fits now. But needs a little more taken out of the cv. From my experence with mine the centering yoke was hitting the cv was the biggest problem. At least yours bolted up. You should have no problem at all with a little grinding on the cv. I had to take a bunch out of mine and still have plenty left. You might also just get away with a little wedge in the front depending on your caster. Check some of my posts. 75F350 has done this several times already and has helped me out a bunch. These guys have already done the ground work for us so that will be less trail and error for us.
 
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