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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Lower ball joint - FRONT end Alignment

I just put new tires on my 2WD 2003 F-150.

I told the guy to align the front end because wire was showing on the INSIDES of the tires.

Later I arrived to pick up my truck. He told me the the front end alignment was useless because the lower ball joints were loose. And basically that was the main reason to cause my previous tires to wear out on the inside only.

He said the parts would be $80 bucks (that's for both lower ball joints).

And $80 bucks to put them on and finish the front end alighnment.

I am just checking to see if he knows what he is talking about, and if it's an ok price. He also told me it was common for this series of trucks.

I tend to do a little research when it's something I know nothing about.

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Ball joints are a common problem with these trucks. To check them yourself, put a jack under the lower control arm and jack the truck up so that the wheel is off the ground. slide a 2x4 under the tire and lift up on the end of it. There should be no movement of the wheel up and down when pressure on the 2x4 is relaxed. If thee is, the ball joints are bad. While you are there, grab the wheel at 3 and 9 o'clock and move the wheel side to side. Any movement here indicates tie rod ends of an idler arm bushing is bad. Get under and look to see where the movement is coming from. BTW, $160 doesn't sound bad. Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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If you jack it up to check like stated above, you may want to grab the tire at the 12 & 6 o'clock positions and move the tire back and forth and take a look at the upper ball joints also. The guy who did the tires probably checked it but it won't hurt to look as these go bad also.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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If I were you, I would have the upper ball joints as well put on while they have it apart. I just got upper and lower ball joints put on with alignment for $325 including labor and parts.

I thought this was a good deal for moog greasable joints.

The parts were $40 a/piece for lower ball joints
$85a/piece for upper control arms and ball joints

The uppers are probably ready to go as well. Nice thing about moog joints are they have grease fittings so you can maintain them.

Good Luck
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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bowdog ndo you have to change the lower control arm to change the ball joints like the uppers?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for all the help

Thanks for all the help. It assured me what was wrong, and that I indeed got a good deal.

Just got back from the tire shop, and it drives like a champ now.

Before I had the repairs done, the front end was a little loud at times going across bumps.

It is now much quieter.

Thanks again for the assurance and help.

I would of had the upper ball joints replaced, but a litte low on funds right now. Surely it will last another 2 years for the uppers. He said they looked fine.

I assume the LOWERS must be a little easier to change than the uppers???

It took him only 2 hours or less to change the lowers.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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bowdog ndo you have to change the lower control arm to change the ball joints like the uppers?
No. You don't have to change the lower cntrl arm. They press in & out.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bowdog
If I were you, I would have the upper ball joints as well put on while they have it apart. I just got upper and lower ball joints put on with alignment for $325 including labor and parts.

I thought this was a good deal for moog greasable joints.

The parts were $40 a/piece for lower ball joints
$85a/piece for upper control arms and ball joints

The uppers are probably ready to go as well. Nice thing about moog joints are they have grease fittings so you can maintain them.

Good Luck
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Yeah. If your going to replace them you def. want the ones with the fittings.You just have to remember to grease them lol.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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I would of had the upper ball joints replaced, but a litte low on funds right now. Surely it will last another 2 years for the uppers. He said they looked fine.

I assume the LOWERS must be a little easier to change than the uppers???

It took him only 2 hours or less to change the lowers.[/quote
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I wouldn't be so sure about the uppers lasting that long(depending on mileage & how you drive) but as long as you got the lowers done thats good enough for now. Both upper & lower ball joints on these model trucks are known for not lasting very long at all. There is prob. more work involved in just changing the lowers because you have to press them in. The uppers are only 2 bolts & the whole control arm assy. comes out. Fairly easy job to do both if you have done them before but it is a lot easier to do both upper & lowers at once.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure about the uppers lasting that long(depending on mileage & how you drive) but as long as you got the lowers done thats good enough for now. Both upper & lower ball joints on these model trucks are known for not lasting very long at all. There is prob. more work involved in just changing the lowers because you have to press them in. The uppers are only 2 bolts & the whole control arm assy. comes out. Fairly easy job to do both if you have done them before but it is a lot easier to do both upper & lowers at once.
Well it has 78,000 miles on it. It is basically just a family vehicle, just highway and around town. It has never been offroad, as it is just a 2WD Sport model.

I did make a mistake, I thought the uppers costed a lot more than they did, but after looking on O'Riellys they are around $40 bucks to. Oh well, I live and learn....lol

I'll pray for ONE YEAR then instead of TWO..haha

Thanks so much.
 
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Originally Posted by ronxp2000

I did make a mistake, I thought the uppers costed a lot more than they did, but after looking on O'Riellys they are around $40 bucks to. Oh well, I live and learn....lol

Hmmm interesting becasue I had to have an upper replaced on my last fall and the part was $100 in itself.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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O'Reilly's has the UPPERS from $34 to $57 bucks.

Autozone has them for $76

I could be looking at it wrong, but it's how I picked out the lowers for $40 bucks, and they worked.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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i paid $75 at Auto Zone each, last summer. Upper lasted 2 years longer than lowers.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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I'll chime in on this one. I replaced the uppers and lowers on my '97 4x4 at 150,000. Both lowers were shot and one upper. At the same time I replaced all 4 tie rod ends - 2 were shot, and all 4 shocks - one front was blown.
My '03 has 50,000 miles and everything is still tight (as it should be).

I think these trucks get good life out of the ball joints, just compare them the the 80-96 F150's.
 
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