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Will the New F-150 handle my 11k toy hauler? I was thinking about purchasing a new F-150 crew cab 4x4 and installing air bags and a rousch charger? Anyone tow a large toy hauler with one of these trucks??
As a previous owner of an '01 F-150 and '04 Super Duty with a PSD, and currently an owner of an '09 F-150, I mostly agree with the previous posts. If you are planning on towing 11k often or over long distances, you will be much more satisfied with a Super Duty, especially one with a diesel (a V10 tows well, but still not as satisfying as the diesel). I towed loads in excess of 15k without issue with my Super Duty. A 11k load is a cake walk behind one of those trucks.
However, as a daily driver, the F-150 is much more user friendly. It rides better, is easier to manuever & park, maintenance is cheaper, fuel mileage is better (thanks to new emissions equipment on the diesels), steering is much more precise, etc. Technically, a properly equipped '09 F-150 should be able to legally tow 11k lbs. I don't doubt that it WILL tow that kind of weight, but it will be working hard to do so, much more than a Super Duty with the diesel or V10.
If you are planning on towing a load like that frequently or over long distances, you will probably be happier with a Super Duty. If you only plan on towing 11k a few times a year or only over short distances (<1-2hr), you will probably be fine with the F-150.
Or occasionally and then the rest of the time the truck is a commuter, grocery getter.
I think thats the key factor.
If I was going to drive a truck 50,000 kms a year, and half were towing 11,000 lbs, I would likely get an F350 with the V10.
If I was planning to only tow it a few thousand kms per year, and use it as a daily driver otherwise, I would get the F150, and order the tow package.
If towing is a priority get a diesel. The V10, while good (reasonably) performance ratings, is not designed for towing. You'll net about 10 MPG...at best...
If towing is a priority get a diesel. The V10, while good (reasonably) performance ratings, is not designed for towing. You'll net about 10 MPG...at best...
I'd have to disagree with you there. The V10 is a workhorse of an engine and is fully capable of towing 11,000 easily on a regular basis. Yes, I've towed with both and wouldn't hesitate to use a V10 for that. I got the diesel because I preferred it and at the time, it offered a greater fuel economy advantage over the V10. The diesel also comes in at around $6k more than the V10. The newer diesels aren't as far separated from the V10 in towing fuel mileage as the older diesels were due to the aforementioned emissions equipment choking the 6.4 back. The V10 must be somewhat capable of hauling that kind of weight because it's used in Ford's motorhome chassis.
I would consider, as was mentioned above, your daily and towing use. If you are going to tow only a few times a year, the F-150 should handle the weight but you will be pushing its capabilities to the max with 11k. Otherwise, if you are going to be towing often, consider the 250 or 350 with the V10 or diesel. Either will tow that trailer with ease but consider the fact that the the diesel now will set you back around $6k more than a comparably equipped V10. An F250/350 with the 5.4 and 4.10 gears would probably also do fine towing that weight. The 250/350 would, however, probably provide a more stable tow platform.
I love my diesel and it has been trouble free powertrain wise but considering the rising cost of the diesel option, maintenance, and fuel costs, I might consider the V10 next time myself.
I would not get the f150 no matter how much you tow your trailer. 11,000 lbs is way to close to the max towing rating for that truck. Get the F250 with the V10 and you will be much more satisfied.
As someone has already said it depends on how much you tow the trailer. Yes the f150 will tow it but you dont want to be towing it day in day out with it. If you use it a couple of times a month to move the trailer then the f150 would be my choice.
personally i wouldnt even take the risk with the F150. Even if Ford states it can pull 11300, that seems like way too much for a 1/2 ton truck. I wouldnt chance it by putting your life and possibly your families life at risk. I would probably opt for the f250 diesel.
I'd go with the a SD if your towing more than 500 miles a year. If the trailer is a Fiver I wouldn't even consider the 150 due to the pin weight. Tire rating, GAWR, Payload and etc will be cutting it close. An 09' with 3.73s with the Max tow will be close to the price of the SD anyway.
V10 not designed for towing and HD applications. The V10 was designed solely with heavy duty purposes in mind. Class A and C motorhomes, generators (LP, NatGas & Propane), E and F series 250s-550s and etc. V10s are made to work and isn't in the shop all the time.
I'd go with the a SD if your towing more than 500 miles a year. If the trailer is a Fiver I wouldn't even consider the 150 due to the pin weight. Tire rating, GAWR, Payload and etc will be cutting it close. An 09' with 3.73s with the Max tow will be close to the price of the SD anyway.
V10 not designed for towing and HD applications. The V10 was designed solely with heavy duty purposes in mind. Class A and C motorhomes, generators (LP, NatGas & Propane), E and F series 250s-550s and etc. V10s are made to work and isn't in the shop all the time.
The newer diesels aren't as far separated from the V10 in towing fuel mileage as the older diesels were due to the aforementioned emissions equipment choking the 6.4 back.
It actually has nothing to do with the newer diesels. The V10 has always been very close GCWR wise as compared to the diesel. The diesel (6.4l) does have a higher GCWR when equipped with steeper gears though in F-250 and F-350 form.(4.10s I believe) The 6.4l is the only option for the F-450 with the bed. The V10 is only available on the F-450 in chassis cab formation only.
What I posted had nothing to do with GCWR. I was pointing out that the difference in fuel mileage between the V10 and the 6.4 when towing is not that far off. There was a bigger fuel mileage difference between the V10 and the 6.0 or 7.3 when towing than there is between the 6.4 and the V10 when towing. The 6.4 is choked back even further than the 6.0 with all of the emissions stuff and doesn't get the fuel economy that previous diesels did.
I agree about the GCWR and case in point is the F-350 SRW with the V10 and the 4.30 gears. Its GCWR is actually higher than the diesel SRW with the 3.73s.
What I posted had nothing to do with GCWR. I was pointing out that the difference in fuel mileage between the V10 and the 6.4 when towing is not that far off. There was a bigger fuel mileage difference between the V10 and the 6.0 or 7.3 when towing than there is between the 6.4 and the V10 when towing. The 6.4 is choked back even further than the 6.0 with all of the emissions stuff and doesn't get the fuel economy that previous diesels did.
I agree about the GCWR and case in point is the F-350 SRW with the V10 and the 4.30 gears. Its GCWR is actually higher than the diesel SRW with the 3.73s.
No biggie. Just defending the V10. Even though I've got a diesel, I love the V10 and might think about it next time. Don't know where the idea ever came from that it's not for towing.
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