Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Exhaust Brake Help?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:09 PM
  #16  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Don't go to the shop yet Clay. Did you upload the pics to your gallery?
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:13 PM
  #17  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Clay- stand by, I'll "modify" your pic to help out.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:14 PM
  #18  
CharGriller's Avatar
CharGriller
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: North Central Oregon
Originally Posted by superduty4x4
Don't go to the shop yet Clay. Did you upload the pics to your gallery?
I'll go there now and do that I've got some much better ones. And thanks.


EDIT: The new album is uploaded.

Oh Yeah I forgot....https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...hp?albumid=281
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:19 PM
  #19  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Okay:



Yellow arrow- what the crap is this? I'm guessing it is a part of your exhaust brake... its definitely not stock
Blue arrow- wiring/relay most likely for your exhaust brake. Follow these wires to figure out where they go (make sure they are hooked up)
Green arrow- this is the air line for the brake I'm guessing. One end should hook to something back near the turbo, the other end should hook to a compressor somewhere. Figure out where the lines go and make sure its all hooked up.
You mentioned the yellow wire is for your pyro- please tell me you didn't put it in the down pipe... (down pipe- the part of the exhaust that hooks to the turbo, just in case you didn't know that already)
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:26 PM
  #20  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA


This is likely the compressor for the brake. The wiring almost dead center in the pic looks to be all related to the brake, and you can also see the air line but I can't tell where it goes. I posted the link to BD's web site earlier in this post, I would check that page out and see if there is any helpful info there.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:27 PM
  #21  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Clay- http://www.dieselperformance.com/pro...Air_Brake1.pdf
Check it out, lots of good info in there.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:38 PM
  #22  
CharGriller's Avatar
CharGriller
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: North Central Oregon
BINGO, Chase you seemed to have nailed it. That's going to be it for sure! You'll excuse me now if I go and do some extensive reading. You rock! I also got some pics of that purple thingy in your first illustration. I'll resize those and add them to my exhaust brake component album.

Taking pic's of the engine compartment isn't easy as the camera strap keeps tangling in my walker!! Just kidding I'm old...but don't have a walker yet!

And thanks for you know what!
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 02:45 PM
  #23  
jeff7825's Avatar
jeff7825
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
I've got one on my truck that I had to piece back together after I bought it because one of the hoses was ripped. You ought to be able to tell if it is working by simply listening to the exhaust when the switch is flipped or the button is pushed. The exhaust should have a hissing sound to it, they don't sound like a Jake Brake, so let the truck idle, flip the switch, and walk around and listen to the exhaust. If it sounds normal, then something is wrong. If you heard a hissing type noise, then it should be working alright.

By the way it is kind of hard to road test these things. I tried mine out going down a hill around my house and didn't really noticed a difference in the truck holding speed. So......I concluded from that that it takes a really heavy trailer or a very steep hill to really test out an exhaust brake, you can't really road test one otherwise. My opinion anyhow.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 04:20 PM
  #24  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA


That's the actuator for the brake, you can see the air line going into it. Even with an empty truck if the brake closes you should be able to feel it, I know you can tell when the EBPV closes so I would think you could tell when the brake closes. Jeffrey is right though, with the brake closed the exhaust will not sound normal.
And I still see pyro wires going toward the down pipe, please tell me the pyro isn't in the down pipe!
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:20 PM
  #25  
05chop's Avatar
05chop
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Ok I give!Why dont you want the pyro in the down-tube?
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:34 PM
  #26  
CharGriller's Avatar
CharGriller
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: North Central Oregon
WOW...Holy Crapoola Batman!!!!.....that must be why it's called a SuperChip! Man if thats inferior to everything Else out there ...I don't want it. That was scary. If somebody told me a one ton dually could move that fast...I would have called him a lier ...face up.

Now I just got back from a test drive after reading the B&D Exhaust brake operating, and maint instructions on the link supplied by one illustrious SuperDuty. According to the instructions I now know why I thought my cruise control wasn't functioning properly. That was to be another thread. Everything seems to be as should be with the brake. And now the cruise is operating as it should too.

I'll be able to tell more when I'm actually packing a load. And believe me I can't wait to go haul hay to my barn this year. I just might have to look for a supplier that is farther away and lives on top of the mountains ...just for the fun of trying to see if I could possibly make this truck grunt.

At this point it seems to be a BIG DOUBT. Now to address Supers concern with my under hood wiring I added two close up pics of the turbo area and tubes. Superduty if you could go look I haven't figured out how to bring a single pic out of my album?

I called around and can get a new thermocouple for my gage for approx $ 46.00. But I don't want to order that then find out the gage is bad? SuperDuty tell me what you think on the wiring? Thanks again ...and now I know why I saw where somebody said these trucks could pull a house off it's foundation!

I haven't felt acceleration like that since I was 19 yoa and blew my1964 427, 425 Hp, 480 ft./lbs. at the axle Galaxy 500, 12.5 112 MPH 1/4 Stock.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:02 PM
  #27  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Clay... LMAO! If you like the SuperChip you'll have to ride in a DP Tuned truck sometime... everyone says it blows the SuperChip away. Mine is on its way


The yellow wire looks to be a pyrometer lead. The fact that its going this direction toward the down pipe makes me worried. The best place for the pyro is in the exhaust manifold, or the up-pipe just after the manifold. The EGT's in the down pipe are "diluted" by the turbo, and if you're not careful you can burn your motor up by relying on the post-turbo down pyro. You shouldn't need a new probe, just a drill bit, a tap, and a way to plug the hole in the down pipe. Unless whoever did the install put the Isspro post-turbo gauge in... what does the gauge look like?


See that doohicky almost dead center in the picture, just to the left of the black part? It's called an AIH and you can get rid of it if you want- search for "AIH delete" and you'll find tons of info. You can either plug the hole, or install a boost gauge fitting in its place.
To put your pics in a thread like I'm doing, all you need to do is:
Go to your album, find the pic you want
Rick click on the picture, and copy the "Address" info
When you are typing your reply, you can click on this: if you use the standard reply page and follow the prompts
If you use quick reply, then it's a lot harder for me to explain how to put the pic in there, but if you really want me to I'll try to make my brain work harder
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:19 PM
  #28  
CharGriller's Avatar
CharGriller
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
From: North Central Oregon
Chase I don't see any yellow wiring running into any tube? The dealer performed some pre-sale agreed work prior to the deal (exhaust leak) and I talked to the mechanic who stated the lead to the thermocoupler was into the passenger side exhaust manifold (i think) and looked fine. It's too cluttered for me to be able to see much. Thanks.

Also accidently ran into a "Dave" on another thread who is connected to B&D in someway. If he has time he might drop by here and better enlighten me as to what to expect from the exhaust brake when not under a load?

Thanks for the pic explanation. It won't let me "rep" you again. But you deserve it.

EDIT: I will save the AIH delete for a new boost gage.
And thanks again...learned something new!
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:31 PM
  #29  
superduty4x4's Avatar
superduty4x4
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 40
From: Newport, WA
Clay- if the pyro probe is in the passenger side exhaust manifold then you're fine. I don't know why someone would go to the trouble to string the wiring clear over there when you can put it in the driver's side but to each his own! In both pics I have in my last post you can see the yellow wire for the probe leads, I was worried that the probe had been installed in the down pipe since the wires are in that neck of the woods (down pipe is the piece of exhaust that connects to the turbo).
I'll bet the Dave you ran into is the guy who works for or possibly owns B&D, I'm surprised he hasn't replied in this thread yet. Glad you've got things mostly figured out now Spend some time reading the forums and looking around under the hood, you'll have more stuff figured out in no time. I just bought my stroker about a year ago and I've learned TONS in that year...enough that I recently went and got someone elses Powerstroker running after 3-4 guys had tried and failed! There's lots of other helpful PSD nuts like me in this forum to help out along the way
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:19 PM
  #30  
jeff7825's Avatar
jeff7825
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
If I were you, I would get under your truck when you get a chance just to make sure that the pyro is in the manifold, if you haven't done so already.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:42 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE