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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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5th starter in 3 months

i went out this mornin to start my truck and it made this grindin noise and i heard the starter spinnin but the motor didnt turn im pretty sure the bendix is worn out again for the 6th time in 3 months im at a loss i have no clue what is going on any help would be greatly apprieciate it i cant afford to keep sinking money into this truck and might actually cry if i have to sell it
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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It has been a very long time since I bought a starter myself, but I have heard from a mechanic friend of mine that the quality of "remanufactured" starters has been terrible for several years now. His shop has stopped buying them and only buys new starters now. For some older cars, you can't get new ones anymore. I don't know if that is your problem or not.

Another possible problem is the ring gear on your flyweel. Have you checked it? If you have some F***ed up teeth on the ring gear, it will destroy starters quickly.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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What kind of starters are you getting?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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ive been getting the remanufactured ones from advance auto and i know that 2 teeth are hlfway broken off the flywheel
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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heres the ad for it if i can get this right ill probably reconsider
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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remanufactured ones from advance auto and 2 teeth are hlfway broken off the flywheel
That's what I'd call geting it from both directions! LOL

Might want to find a good starter and rebuild it yourself (Rockauto has the Ford bendix assy) also replace that ring gear. That's what I did...
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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how hard is it to get the trans off to get to the ring gear and also can i just change the ring gear or do i need a new flexplate

im in college and money is tight and possibly needing a trans im getting to the point where ive got to much money into it
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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how hard is it to get the trans off to get to the ring gear and also can i just change the ring gear or do i need a new flexplate

im in college and money is tight and possibly needing a trans im getting to the point where ive got to much money into it
It's relatively easy if you have a tranny jack to remove. If not it can be a serious pain. It's not always easy to "re-stab" them or line them back up.

You won't really be able to tell if you need a new flexplate or not untill you get it apart. If the flexplate has cracks in it you will need to replace it etc...


As for starters, I've replaced two starters in the past several months. But I have lifetime warantee on them. The remanufactured starters are not as good as they used to be.

You might try getting a new or rebuilt one from Ford. The quality of those starters should be vastly superior.
Part Number: E4DZ-11002-BRM, not sure if the part number has been updated or not.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Permanent Magnet Gear-Reduction (PMGR) Starters

I would try one of these starters before you give up.
They are new, not rebuilt.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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If you have a couple teeth missing on the flexplate, that probably says something about the condition of the rest of the teeth. If they are bad, they can ruin the starter.

If your truck is 2wd, you could pull the tranny back yourself with a floor jack, although having a extra set of hands makes it a lot easier. Instead of taking the tranny completely out and setting it on the ground, you can drop the whole thing down till it comes out with the jack underneath the tranny, and then pull it back a little ways and then jack it back up till the tranny hits the floorboard, and that should keep it on there till you get the flexplate replaced.

Just keep an eye on the fan shroud and stuff up front, since the engine is going to lean back on the motor mounts. You want it to do this, so you can slide the tranny back and not hit the floorboard, but you don't want to crack the fan shroud.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Just keep an eye on the fan shroud and stuff up front, since the engine is going to lean back on the motor mounts. You want it to do this, so you can slide the tranny back and not hit the floorboard, but you don't want to crack the fan shroud.
Very good advice. I would think about unbolting the shroud from the radiator as well and leave it hanging to help prevent damage.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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the ring gear on your flyweel. Have you checked it? If you have some F***ed up teeth on the ring gear, it will destroy starters quickly.
my exact problem at the moment, pintoches is gonna help me change it saturday..... currently on my 3rd started in 6 months
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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thnx for the help but now to throw a wrench into everything, the motor is from a 1992 lincoln mk vii and ive heard that for used different cuonter weights on the flexplate/flywheel (28 oz.,50 oz.) and i do not know which one this truck has in it when i rotate the motor over by hand i can see numbers on what looks to be the counter weight can i look those numbers up anywhere? and also when i jack up the trans what should i put the jack under i dont want to use the bellhousing because i heard that can warp it and at the same time i get a bad feeling about using the pan
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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92 would be a 50oz flexplate, i believe pre 82 used the 28oz, someone correct me if im wrong. I ran into this issue with my 71 motor in my 84 mustang
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Is the transmission from the truck, or from the car as well?

Why I ask this is the starter changed in 1992.
 
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