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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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I am starting to look at injectors and I am going to go with stage 2's and was wanting to know the difference between 160's and 180's? I know, I know 20cc's, but what else? Whatis the advantage if any with the 180's? I will be running my stoke turbo for a short time until I can up-grade. What do I need to consider or watch for with this set up?

P.S. The rest of my mods. are in my sig. I also have everything for the intercooler sitting at home and my 17* pump is on the way to Terminator Engineering to be rebuilt and tweaked.

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Normal stage II sticks are the 160's. The 180's have larger nozzles that get the fuel in the chamber faster.

I'd be watcing your temps as it doesn't take, not long at all without an IC before you have to let off.

I ran two's with a stock turbo, IC, and 10k for a year without any problems.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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I thought the 160's had lager nozzles also. Isn't that what separates them from 160cc stage ones?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Stage I's are 160cc with stock nozzle, StageII's are 160cc with larger nozzles. The 180's I have was a custom order.

The reason stageII's are now 160cc is they can be run just fine with a stock 17° HPOP. The 180's require more oil.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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So could I run 180's with my tweaked 17* from Terminator Engineering?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks for the clarificaiton Neal. My 180's were special order as well.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Yes you should be fine with the TE pump. I presume.
I am running on a stock 17° pump with no problems. I can set a CEL every now and then. But my pump is relatively new and not many miles on it.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FARM69
Thanks for the clarificaiton Neal. My 180's were special order as well.
At one time all of the stage II's were 180cc. Now they are 160cc due to the CEL's people were getting.

I am no pro this is just what I have been told.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Yep, your going to have that with the old school single shots. Mine will sometimes get into fits when I push her over 25 lbs. It's time for big oil and a tuner.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by blake 7.3L
So could I run 180's with my tweaked 17* from Terminator Engineering?
Tell me more about this "tweaked" 17* pump. I'm curious as to what Joey can do to it without changing the swash plate angle. For a while Swamp had a 20* pump but that didn't last very long.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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I'm interested as well. I'd like to put stealths in mine, but I want to get the mech fuel pump. Dieselsite had a nice single that failed terrible once they stopped making it in house.

Not many options out there unless you want to spend some pretty good money.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Rodney joey would not really tell me what he does but he says it is minor. I know Cody has one too maybe he knows.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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TE is working on a single system that is suppose to be bad @$$ but it is not out yet. Just one more option to consider. Send Joey an e-mail.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Ok fellas not to be redundant, but what pump is in my truck from the factory? will it work with stage 1's and if so what other mods besides an intercooler will i need first?

96 250 4x4 E4OD 140v FPR Edge Evolution 3-4dp AFE intake

Thanks again, Brad
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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The OBS has a 15 degree HPOP.

Stage 1's should be fine with a stock setup. I'd recommend getting gauges to watch your temps. Some people run II's on the 15 or 17 without any problems. It just depends on condition of the pump you have.
 
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