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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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Vapor locked?

I have a 390fe in my 66 f-100. It fires up great in the morning or when it sits for awhile, but after i drive it for a bit and get it to operating tempt and stop for gas for something at the store, come back to truck, it doesnt want to start, it has almost a low battery type of cracking then it picks up and fires up fine after a few secs of cranking.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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I bet you have an aluminum intake, and it is boiling the gas out of the carb.

Add a 1" phenolic spacer under the cab and the issue should go away, make the truck run a little sweeter too.


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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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If it's slow cranking when hot, either the starter is fried, OR - you have the initial timing too far advanced. Check the timing
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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"Add a 1" phenolic spacer under the cab"
Well John, I don't think raising the "cab" up will help with the hot start problem..........

Ok.......just pulling your lariat...........
(see Art, I don't just pick on you)

Sounds kinda like both problems. Weak starter(check cables too), plus fuel boiling which will make it harder to start even after cranking. It'll have extra fuel puddled up in the cylinders which is hard to compress.

Stock motor? Autolite 2bbl? Still needs some kind of insulator under carb. My 352 was HORRIBLE for this.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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well sounds like the easy check is the timing, which in it self is pain since the idiot that helped rebuild the motor installed the crank 180 out

will try and retard the timing a bit to start with.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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[quote=cmoorehead78;7092665]well sounds like the easy check is the timing, which in it self is pain since the idiot that helped rebuild the motor installed the crank 180 out

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I have not herd this before, can you explain?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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The cam timing is 180degs out. The timing chain was installed with timing marks in oppposite location(instead of close together). Still runs fine, but the TDC mark for #1 is now 180 degs out(bottom of the damper now).


I've heard of this before, but never dealt with it. Can you remark the damper after finding TDC on #1(using piston stop) and putting a scribe mark at your timing tab? Put the stop in, rotate til piston hits, mark at tab, rotate around backwards, mark at tab. Then measure between and remark your new TDC. Make sense? You'll have to use a timing light with a dial on it to get the degrees, but at least you'll have TDC.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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What's the FE firing order? 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8

Wouldn't it be easier to use cylinder # 6 for timing it?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Thanks, I have not know of anyone doing that. So I think that Krewat i right, it shouls be able to time off #6 on the timing marks. Or take the time and put the crank and cam marks rite.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightrain
"Add a 1" phenolic spacer under the cab" Well John, I don't think raising the "cab" up will help with the hot start problem.....
Ok I get it, fat finger mistake.

Yall say what you want, but it corrected the same problem for me instantly, when I added one under the carb.



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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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See John, I was making sure it wasn't just ART that I picked on for goofy posts.


My '67 was horrible for vapor lock. I put a 1" spacer and it helps alot, though it still kinda was rough sometimes.

I was wondering if #6 would do it also? Wasn't sure(never tried it), so didn't want to lead anyone astray.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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i had a buddy with a firebird that someone had done the same thing we always timed it off of the 5th cylinder in the firing order in this case #6.
 
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