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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Plow upgrade question...

Hey Everyone!

Ok, once again I'm over here asking questions. Before you guys refer me to www.plowsite.com, I have been there, and it seems like it's been twisting arms and breaking legs to get the answers from people over there.


Anyways...

I currently have my truck setup for towing, and am looking into the possiblity of maybe in October time frame (I know long ways away) installing a plow onto the front.

The Plow prep package from ford consists of:
computer selected front springs
heavy duty alternator.

I cannot get this package due to my current towing options. However I do have a package that adds:
Heavy Duty Service Front Springs

Will those springs be good for plowing?

If I need to upgrade to a heavier duty alternator, is there any suggestions, or should I just wait till then and see if i really need one?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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What option on your build is excluding the plow package? From what I saw, it didn't conflict with any towing options?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Sorry it isn't a "towing" option per say, it's the heavy service package? (I can't remember exactly, but it adds heavy service front springs)
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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I also know that when you have a plow prep on your truck. You get and Oil Cooler. A few more things also.

I am surrprised you couldnt get the Plow prep and tow package . I got it on my 06.

For the front springs, You might take your VIN to a Ford dealer, They can give you a build sheet. You can then compare springs, or part numbers.

I just had this conversation with another person, who didnt think the plow package, matterd when Tow package was already there.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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(nice sig pic)

i will email my seller and hopefully they will be able to add it on... let me double check and see what i can do... i might try dropping one package for the other... i really wish they outlined exactly ALL that everything adds.... not most of it.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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My opinion is both packages compliment each other.
Both are great to have right out of the factory.

If I may I also reccomend the Truck being built at the Kentucky truck plant. I always try to get one there even if it is used.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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63B Stabilizer Package Includes: 115.00 100.50
Heavy Service Front Springs
Rear Stabilizer Bar
thats the package I have for the towing to help... would it be a bad thing if i sacrificed that for the plowprep package?

If you need to know the rest, let me know and ill fix the file so it don't have all my info on it.

Thanks

Matt

PS - Truck is being built at kentucky plant (so if you work there let me know and i'll send you an email of the pics once I get it)
 

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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I would order the truck with the snow plow package. This way when you install the plow you know that it will work and that there will not be any warranty issues.

The plow prep package usually comes with the heaviest rated front springs and probably a different cooling fan clutch.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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should i worry about the rear stabilizer bar?

the plow thing is a most likely, but I am going to be doing massive towing... so i need to make sure that the towing won't be hindered

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Well. You can see if they can put the trailer brake controller and the hitch.

I would also get the plow package. Your local dealer can even put the tow cammand brake controlls in, I wonder why they cant at the factory..

I dont work there, no but, I had a rock brake out my windsheild. I had a new one put in. (SuperDuty) at the top. I called down to the hall. I am a Teamster union steward, and The guy at the hall put me intouch with the line. I had them send me up a new window sticker, They also sent me up an extra, and a nice letter signed from the line men.

Union Pride cuts deep into my Heart. That is another example of solidarity amongs Brothers. They will build you a great truck.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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they are putting in the brake controller and the hitch. (the trucks nearly loaded for being a Gasser XL w/ 6Spd)


I'll see what the people I ordered this through can do (they might not be able to add it in anymore, but I'm going to check)

Anyways I appreciate the help, and I can't wait to get some pictures up here of it and me (and everything else I got for it)

Thanks for the info (and the quick answering unlike the other forum)

Again... !!!!

Matt
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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I also got the chrome package on my XL the reason I didnt go the XLT route, is I wanted rubber floor mats, No carpet. And I still got the 60 40 seats
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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thanks for the info mustang. your truck in your pic looks similar to the one i should be getting (and a similar trailer) I'll make sure to upload all the pics (again with the other projects I'm doing)


Well computer is about to do a force re-boot in 1:30 so I guess i should log off and thank you all for your help... and then get to friggen sleep


Take care all! Hopefully I'll be back stateside in a couple days not weeks.

Matt
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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The reason you can't get the snow plow package is because by ordering the heavy service suspension package, you essentially already have the only component from the snow plow package, which is the upgraded front springs.

Only the diesel engine gets the fan clutch, larger alternator, etc.

If I recall correctly, you are upgrading from 5200lb. springs to 5600lb. If you are planning on a heavy plow (1000lbs. or more) you might want to consider the 6000lbs. springs. The truck won't "squat" as much and the ride will only be slightly harsher. I have heard some guys say that there is no noticeable difference in ride quality


Heavy Service Suspension Package includes heavy service front springs (1-up upgrade above the spring computer selected as a consequence of options chosen; not included if maximum springs have been computer- selected as standard equipment) NOTE: Recommended only on vehicles which will permanently utilize aftermarket equipment such as heavy duty winches, brush guards or other apparatus which loads the front axle to the specified gross axle weight rating (GAWR) (not available with Snow Plow Prep Package, Camper Package or Heavy Service Package)



Snow Plow Prep Package (4x4) includes computer-selected springs for snow plow application, extra heavy-duty 200-amp alternator with Power Stroke_ diesel engine, unique fan clutch with Power Stroke_ diesel engine for improved cooling
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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winged1dur... that is good info and accurate with the spring rates. I have the Plow and Tow pakges on mine. There was 1 foramlity. Mine showed up with a myers plow. I told them to get that thing off my truck, unless they would give it to me free, and then I wanted it in the bed, so I could sell it.

They took the plow off and nocked off $4200.00 also

They must have stopped offering both packages on the same unit, or the Dealer wasnt well informed.

Culprit is essentially getting the same truck I got. This thing is a beast. With one heck of a payload and GCWR.
 
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