2006 mariner question (CD4E)
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2006 mariner question (CD4E)
Hi everyone. My wife and I are looking at buying a 2006 Mariner and I have a question that I'm not really getting answered by sorting through old discussions. I see a lot of talk in regards to the older Escape family vehicles and the use of Mercon V, but very little regarding more recent models.
I'm looking at buying a Mariner from a guy who used it as a fleet vehicle then bought it when it came off lease. He had the tranny fluid changed when it hit 60,000 miles back in October. He had no clue which fluid was in it before, and no clue what fluid was put into it, only that it was done at a ford dealership.
My first question would be should this be a red flag? I mean obviously if the car has trouble shifting gears, then yeah red flag, but what about if it appears to be operating normally?
Also should i buy it, am I just to assume that there is Mercon V in there now, or is there any way to check without seeing the service record? This would be important to me because I prefer to do my own maintenance and would want to continue using what is already in there.
Thank you for your time.
I'm looking at buying a Mariner from a guy who used it as a fleet vehicle then bought it when it came off lease. He had the tranny fluid changed when it hit 60,000 miles back in October. He had no clue which fluid was in it before, and no clue what fluid was put into it, only that it was done at a ford dealership.
My first question would be should this be a red flag? I mean obviously if the car has trouble shifting gears, then yeah red flag, but what about if it appears to be operating normally?
Also should i buy it, am I just to assume that there is Mercon V in there now, or is there any way to check without seeing the service record? This would be important to me because I prefer to do my own maintenance and would want to continue using what is already in there.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi everyone. My wife and I are looking at buying a 2006 Mariner and I have a question that I'm not really getting answered by sorting through old discussions. I see a lot of talk in regards to the older Escape family vehicles and the use of Mercon V, but very little regarding more recent models.
I'm looking at buying a Mariner from a guy who used it as a fleet vehicle then bought it when it came off lease. He had the tranny fluid changed when it hit 60,000 miles back in October. He had no clue which fluid was in it before, and no clue what fluid was put into it, only that it was done at a ford dealership.
My first question would be should this be a red flag? I mean obviously if the car has trouble shifting gears, then yeah red flag, but what about if it appears to be operating normally?
Also should i buy it, am I just to assume that there is Mercon V in there now, or is there any way to check without seeing the service record? This would be important to me because I prefer to do my own maintenance and would want to continue using what is already in there.
Thank you for your time.
I'm looking at buying a Mariner from a guy who used it as a fleet vehicle then bought it when it came off lease. He had the tranny fluid changed when it hit 60,000 miles back in October. He had no clue which fluid was in it before, and no clue what fluid was put into it, only that it was done at a ford dealership.
My first question would be should this be a red flag? I mean obviously if the car has trouble shifting gears, then yeah red flag, but what about if it appears to be operating normally?
Also should i buy it, am I just to assume that there is Mercon V in there now, or is there any way to check without seeing the service record? This would be important to me because I prefer to do my own maintenance and would want to continue using what is already in there.
Thank you for your time.
These trannies are supposed to not have liked Mercon V, but it looks like Mercon non-V is gonna be hard to get in the future. And the new Mercon V is supposed to do OK with these transmissions.
If I bought it and had any concern, I'd find a shop that could do a full fluid exchange. If you can get the old Mercon, have that put in. If not, a full exchange with V would be preferable to any kind of a mix, I'm thinking.
Good luck,
George
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1. No question that regular Mercon is preferable in these transmissions, but it may be getting scarce and/or expensive.
2. Ford says Mercon V is now allowed. It *may* have been reformulated to work with these transmissions but I don't know.
3. I'd rather not have a mix of the two in any case--do you know if the change was a full fluid exchange or just a dump and fill? The latter, with Mercon V would not be something I'd be comfy with but I'm betting there are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road that have a mix like this or worse...
4. So if you have doubt, have a full flush and fill done with the old Mercon if you have a supply, or MV if you want to switch over.
No guarantees, but this is probably what I would do. Good luck with your vehicle choice.
George
2. Ford says Mercon V is now allowed. It *may* have been reformulated to work with these transmissions but I don't know.
3. I'd rather not have a mix of the two in any case--do you know if the change was a full fluid exchange or just a dump and fill? The latter, with Mercon V would not be something I'd be comfy with but I'm betting there are hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road that have a mix like this or worse...
4. So if you have doubt, have a full flush and fill done with the old Mercon if you have a supply, or MV if you want to switch over.
No guarantees, but this is probably what I would do. Good luck with your vehicle choice.
George
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No way to tell Mercon V from Mercon. If the fluid in there looks good now just pull the drain plug and replace with 3.5-4 qts of Mercon V. Do this every 5-7.5k. If the fluid doesn't look good (cherry pink to light pink)start out with Mercon first do three 5k flushes then start with Mercon V.
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You can probably still buy Mercon, it just won't be Motorcraft..Your big name oil companies will be producing their version, as it stll has to meet requirements of the old Mercon, or they'll be paying for a lot of damaged transmissions..my point being is if they make it inferior to the Motorcraft stuff, they'll soon know it, lagging sales by word of mouth, not just from eveyday joes that work on cars, but the auto repair industry as a whole, not to mention class action lawsuits..look for Mercon in your fav auto parts store, just don't look for Motorcraft........
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