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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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You guys must be too young to remember the Cat 1160 series that Cat built for Ford back in the 70's. Nitrated Crank, no replaceable valve seats, No liners, If I remember right, no cam bearings. Lots of problems. Basically was for delivery, small dump trucks, school buses etc. Ford dealers really over sold them. This engine eventually became the 3208 which was a good engine, but very very heavy. I'll take a Cat 7.3 block anytime. I have been to the foundry and it is a great operation. Jim
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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yep the 1145 and 1160 was bout as sorry as the IH DV550
even the 3208 was a guttless wonder in an L-8000
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
We need to get people to quit grenading blocks so there will be a supply still once they quit making new ones
I think Ford sold somewhere around two million 7.3 PSD powered trucks by themselves. Add to that the hundreds of thousands of buses and class 8 rigs and it seems unlikely that the few hundred guys blowing them up on a regular basis will use them all.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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what class 8 truck were they put in I never even saw a 466 in one
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
what class 8 truck were they put in I never even saw a 466 in one
That's what I get for not proofing my post. I thought I typed a 5 there. Sorry.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Class 8? Wow that thing would really have to be turned up to power that. Pleny of T444E small single axle trucks and school buses but no class 8 rigs.

Cat does put a 7.2L into the F-650 and F-750 trucks but the medium class is a totally different division.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Did I read the link wrong? I thought it just said they're closing the one plant (probably the one that supplies most of the Ford engines). Navistar will still produce their engines in other plants, just not that one anymore. I think this was going to happen as soon as Ford switched to their own engine, regardless of the current economic situation.

Ford bought a lot of engines. You can't lose that kind of volume customer without making adjustments.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Wait, there are still 7.3 blocks in production and they are made by WHO? I thought only remans were available...(sure don't like remans...)
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Yes Nolan has a Cat block in his truck.

I find it hard to believe with all the class 8 trucks that navistar would sink away especially with Cat getting out of the business.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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I think they gave up on class 8 truck engines with the DVT800,had lots of power but would come apart in a heartbeat,but wait that is what most IH truck engines done best before the 466
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Did I read the link wrong? I thought it just said they're closing the one plant (probably the one that supplies most of the Ford engines).
I won't judge how you read it. But this is the 1st paragraph of the article. "The future of Navistar’s Indianapolis diesel plant is in doubt after a decision Tuesday night by Ford to stop using Navistar engines in F-series pickups next year."

 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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From another earlier artical
Navistar had shut its Indianapolis facility, which produces diesel engines only for Ford, and had stopped producing those engines at a plant in Huntsville, Alabama. The Huntsville plant remained open.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Well, I'd say all of them can remain open. But it won't make any difference since "after a decision Tuesday night by Ford to stop using Navistar engines in F-series pickups next year."

Am I copying and pasting this wrong? Ford decided to stop using Navistar
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Yes Nolan has a Cat block in his truck.
Hey JD, i think his truck was rebuilt by CAT, not replaced if i remember correctly.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Am I copying and pasting this wrong? Ford decided to stop using Navistar
Yup. Three years earlier than planned.

End of this year.

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