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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Driveshaft/pinion angles?

Trying to get my takeoff shudder figured out with my 8" lift. Does anybody know where I need to be in terms of angles for my pinion and driveshaft. Tyring to figure out what I need to do to solve this problem.

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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you need traction bars to fix that. from what i have read.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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all suspension?

if so, yea, yer driveline needs tending to.

your front d/s reach yer pumpkin? i would think you would have to have it lengthened/

as for the rear d/s, you prolly just need either:

-indexing ring to clock the t-case
-have d/s modified
-lower the t-case

or just adjust the pinion angle, but i would drop the t-case and yer vibes will go away.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Yea i have traction bars. Front driveline no problem. Rear driveline shudder on takeoff. I was just wondering if there was a baseline angle for the pinion or driveshaft, ratio or something.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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try a spacer of about 2" on the carrier bearing. That should help to lower the driveshaft and assist.

You will want to do something soon as my experience was waiting too long and then the pinion seal started leaking. That was my 06 F250.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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All the u-joints should berunning at the same angle. This is easly done with one shaft, you just change pion angle to match front u-joint. But with three u-joints it's A combunation of pion angle and lowering carrier bearing untill all u-joints are at about the same angle.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Sometimes having all the angles where they should be doesn't always work....some trucks are fun to fine tune


As for the suggestion of indexing the transfer case.....all this does is push the t-case back 3/4" in terms of the rear shaft.
Front angle is lowered, rear stays the same as the rear output is inline with the input.



Traction bars fix axle wrap....they don't fix vibration from the driveline that are caused by the operating angles.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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i thought that is what the bars are for he said take off shudder, isn't that axle wrap?
 
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If it's only under heavy throttle or when hooked to a heavy trailer, it's axle wrap.


It's its all the time even light acceleration it's from the driveline.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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alright, because i am trying to fix mine also. dc i have about 5/8 to 3/4 inch of shims on mine do i measure from the 250 blocks or the 350 block. icon said to start with about 1'' i have their 4.5 hanger system be cause it does it even when i am towing my travel trailer
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by emmagator
Trying to get my takeoff shudder figured out with my 8" lift. Does anybody know where I need to be in terms of angles for my pinion and driveshaft. Tyring to figure out what I need to do to solve this problem.

Thanks,DB<CITE></CITE>
here is an old post where I discussed how to correct this and a pretty good article with pix.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post6945520

Oh wait....that was you in the old post. Sorry!
 

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Generally speaking, if there is a u-joint on each end of the shaft, the angles should be the same.

If there is a u-joint on one end, and a CV joint on the other, you should have as little angle as possible on the u-joint end, and make up for it with angle on the CV joint end.

In other words, u-joints impart a torsional vibe, CV joints do not.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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I know this post is old but, about 3 deg or less for the pinion angle. I just ordered a custon d/s and this is what I will do. shim the rear leafspring to get the rear diff at 0 deg.
 
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