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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Need help on timing on a 390FE

I have cylinder #1 up and the rotor is facing that cylinder. Is this correct? By the rotor facing #1, I mean the rotor (metal tip) is facing that direction. I can adjust the rest when I get it fired up by ear. I have yet to ever use a gun.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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When your #1 cylinder is at tdc the rotor should be at the exact spot the #1 spark plug wire is at on your distributor cap. If you have this "perfect" your timing is at 0 deg adv/ret. What do you mean when your rotor is facing the direction of the #1 cylinder?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Yes, mine's pointed pretty dangged straight to the passenger side.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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You have to go in reference to the position of your #1 plug wire not just a generic position on the vehicle. That can change if your distributor base is not in the same position (if your a tooth off of him).
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zak8tac
You have to go in reference to the position of your #1 plug wire not just a
generic position on the vehicle. That can change if your distributor base is
not in the same position (if your a tooth off of him).
The tooth is part of the distributor's shaft that the rotor is hooked to. ;)
The base controls when it'll fire and holds the cap is all. ;)

If...
He's got the right(!) #1 TDC on the crank then the rotor will point "straight"
to the passenger side.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
The tooth is part of the distributor's shaft that the rotor is hooked to.
The base controls when it'll fire and holds the cap is all.

If...
He's go the right(! #1 TDC on the crank then the rotor will point "straight"
to the passenger side.

Alvin in AZ
The 390 has the rotor toward cyl #1 and back towards cyl 8
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Okay let me be a little more specific. I was referring to a tooth off on the crank, I know the shaft is connected to the dist gear that is connected to the rotor. If you pull out a dizzy you can put it in any direction you want as long as at tdc your rotor is hitting the #1 spot on the cap. I for instance moved my dist one tooth so that my vacuum advance is not pointing straight forward, instead it is pointing more towards the battery, this means my rotor will not be in the same position as yours or somebody elses. All I am saying is with your engine at tdc, to put the motor in time your rotor must be at the contact point on the cap where your #1 cylinder plug wire is connected.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zak8tac
Okay let me be a little more specific. I was referring to a tooth off on the
crank, I know the shaft is connected to the dist gear that is connected to the
rotor. If you pull out a dizzy you can put it in any direction you want as long
as at tdc your rotor is hitting the #1 spot on the cap. I for instance moved
my dist one tooth so that my vacuum advance is not pointing straight forward,
instead it is pointing more towards the battery, this means my rotor will not
be in the same position as yours or somebody elses. All I am saying is with
your engine at tdc, to put the motor in time your rotor must be at the contact
point on the cap where your #1 cylinder plug wire is connected.
Thanks for clearing that up, Zak. :)

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Yea sometimes its hard to convey what is going on in my head to the computer screen haha, I'm sure we all have that problem from time to time!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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If its not running right make sure you are on the compression stroke at TDC
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by old76er
If its not running right make sure you are on the compression stroke at TDC
This is how I have it. #1 cyl up and the dizzy pointed towards it. The sharp point in my crappy picture represents the metal tip on the rotor. This correct? Back of the rotor (round part) faces #8 cyl.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 78ford351m
This is how I have it. #1 cyl up and the dizzy pointed towards it.
The sharp point in my crappy picture represents the metal tip on
the rotor. This correct? Back of the rotor (round part) faces #8 cyl.
That's just "convention" and doesn't matter.
Are you still having trouble?
Did you see old76er's post?
Do you know what he means?

Like Zak sez~ what part of the world the rotor points at means nothing
-if- everything else that matters ain't lined up to go with it.

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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For what it's worth most distributor caps have #1 cylinder marked and then 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 after that.

You can have the rotor oriented the way you have it and adjust the spark plug wires accordingly, but why?

Also take into account the rotational play you have to adjust the timing and not get the vacuum advance jammed against the pump bypass.

Josh
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
For what it's worth most distributor caps have #1 cylinder marked and then 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 after that.

You can have the rotor oriented the way you have it and adjust the spark plug wires accordingly, but why?

Also take into account the rotational play you have to adjust the timing and not get the vacuum advance jammed against the pump bypass.

Josh
I got it running perfect now. Issue was I had the rotor facing the wrong way. Then I had the firing order jacked up so it would ping. Fixed all that and she's alive again. Now to fix the 4x4 and get some tires. The 4x4 does engage.
 
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