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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Helm Manual CD - Install to HD?

I have the Helm manual on CD for my 2005 SD. Yes, purchased legally... It requires the CD to be present whenever I use it, which is annoying and slow.

Is there a way to TOTALLY install it to my HD? So that all the files are copied over and it knows to looks to the HD instead of the CD? Now I have installed the software so that the main program resides on the HD as required, but the diagrams and files are still all on the CD and I'd like to move them all to the HD for speed.

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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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that is the way all the service manuals are. it only installs the basic program. to use it you need to use the disc.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Crap. Seems like a poor way to do it, but if that's the way it is...

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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I'm sure that they do stuff like that to keep you from sharing files. However, there may be a way around it.

You might copy the disc to a folder on your hard drive. Sometimes you can make things work that way. (there may be someplace that you can set the location of the data files).

This is just speculation, I've never used a Helm manual, but it has worked with similar things.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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The funny thing is that you can freely copy the CD so I could print copies of this left and right if I wanted to. I run it regularly off the copy so I can keep the original safe in case of disaster.

I wonder if I uninstall everything, then copy all to the HD, then run the install from there??? Hmmmm.... Gotta give that a go. It would be sooo much faster and easier to have this on the HD!

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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It's easy to eliminate the physical CD/DVD.

Just use a "virtual CD/DVD" program on your computer. There are free ones out there, I use one I bought 5 or 6 years ago from H & H Software. Works great on my XP and WIN2K systems. I have my complete set of service CDs and DVDs online at all time.

The Helm software requires that the "disk" have its own drive unique drive letter while running. That's what the virtual disk program provides.

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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you can beat this by ripping the disk to an ISO image on your hard drive and just referencing that virtual cd drive letter when you set up the main program.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Steve, Quaddrive: Thanks for the advice, but I'll be darned if I can get it to work. I tried a couple different shareware/freeware programs to do this, and every time when I launch the Ford "Service information" application, it gives me an error saying "unanticipated termination" or something like that.

First I removed/uninstalled the existing Ford program. Then I used the ISO ripping software to rip the CD to the HD, and made it into a virtual drive. Then I installed the program from the virtual drive. But every time i go to run it, I get the error.

WIN XP Pro SP3, all current updates, running as Admin.

Any ideas?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Steve, Quaddrive: Thanks for the advice, but I'll be darned if I can get it to work. I tried a couple different shareware/freeware programs to do this, and every time when I launch the Ford "Service information" application, it gives me an error saying "unanticipated termination" or something like that.

First I removed/uninstalled the existing Ford program. Then I used the ISO ripping software to rip the CD to the HD, and made it into a virtual drive. Then I installed the program from the virtual drive. But every time i go to run it, I get the error.

WIN XP Pro SP3, all current updates, running as Admin.

Any ideas?

when you made the ISO copy did you give it the same label as what the CD actually has? I got bit on this making copies of Borland C Builder 6..windoze picks its OWN label and whoodathunk it that the software actually looks at the volume record!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Weird. I take it back - I tried reinstalling for the 5th or so time and now it's working. The image saved was the same as the disc name, as far as I can tell. The only difference this time was that I installed it to the default location, but I had it installed somewhere else previously, so I don't know why that should matter.

BTW I found one freeware that seemed the slickest for this: ISODisk - ISODisk, free software for mount and create ISO disk image Simple and seems to work well.

And thanks a lot guys! This is much faster and slicker than using the CD.

Rep points for both of you!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Now you probably need to fix the date issue for the expired disks if yours have that "feature". This was added around five years ago so that disks expired after only a couple of months and were to be replaced by the newer disk for the subscribing dealer.

This keeps you from having to reset your system calendar every time you use the library (and remembering to set it back).

Find, download, and install "runasdate". Google it.

Then edit your command line for the browser to be something like:

[drive]\path\runasdate***** dd\mm\yyyy [drive]\path\tsobrowser*****
where dd\mm\yyyy is a date valid your your dated disk and the drive and paths are valid for where you put your stuff.

For example, my command line for my newer library is:
C:\runasdate\RunAsDate***** 31\10\2007 C:\TSO04_09\tsobrowser*****

Note: Due some moronic filter on this site, replace the "*****" above with ". e x e" but without the additional spaces.

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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Mine doesn't appear to expire. I've had it installed for a few months now and it's working fine otherwise. But I do have some other software that has that "feature" so I will take your advice to add that to my software collection. Thanks, Steve!

-Dave
 
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Glad I found this thread. I was looking for a way to have my manual on the hard drive and not have to mount that slow CD every time. This thread gave me an idea, and it works perfectly.

I used an old utility that has been updated a number of times and even does DVDs now: ISO Recorder. Once you install it, you can right-click on a mounted CD or DVD and have it create an ISO image. You can also right-click on an ISO and have it burn a CD or DVD.

I created the ISO of the CD and put it in a folder. The CD/DVD drive on my system is drive I:. I remapped that to drive J:. I then used Virtual DAEMON Manager to map the ISO image to drive I:.

Now I can bring up the manual and get instant response times!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 03:14 PM
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bringing this up from the past, but got my Helm for my 2018 and creating and iso, then installing from that iso allows me to use it without the CD - thank god because my laptop has not provision for a CD player.
 
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