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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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My 1985 F250 6.9l Diesel Auto Trany, I assume this is supposed to have a C-6 Trany in it, correct?

What is the correct Motorcraft part number for the Transmission Filter kit? Also, what is the correct part number for the Motorcraft Transmission Pan Gasket kit?
it would indeed have a c6 in it. the motorcraft part number is
FT48
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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I changed my tranny fluid recently and added a drain plug to the pan. I will always change the filter when changing the fluid. The drain makes it less messy, especially if you ever have to pull your tranny.
It's definitely a messy job.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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I changed my tranny fluid recently and added a drain plug to the pan. I will always change the filter when changing the fluid. The drain makes it less messy, especially if you ever have to pull your tranny.

Excellent idea. I was just thinking that a few posts up.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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You can buy the drain plug at o'reilly.Just be sure that you install the plug where it will not interfere with the mechanicals of the tranny.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
I am not sure if the overdrive tranny has the drain plug in the torque converter or not.

I don't believe in the theory that changing the fluid is going to ruin the tranny. The factory highly recommends changing the fluid, and the new fluid will have better lubricating properties, and the goodies in the oil will be fresh, such as the detergents that can help loosen up sticky valve spools and such.

I agree with Dave. Most fluids in trucks have a limited life span, so need to be replaced at specific intervals. Breakdown, loss of viscosity, water absorption, decomposing / polymerization, acid generation, etc. all occur with most fluids. Best thing is to change them out when the factory specs call for a change. If your vehicle has been driven hard and under adverse conditions, then changing the fluids even earlier can be the right thing to do.

I don't have an auto tranny in my '84 F250 4x4 but I have changed out the tranny fluid that was in my NP435 4-spd. Man, what crap that was! It would not surprise me if that was the original factory fluid. It was VERY dark and smelled like a cross between burning rubber and rotten eggs. Yeah, at 142,000 miles it was WAY over-due for a change. Next up is the xfer case and differentials but they can wait for better weather.

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Does anyone have a picture of what the plug should look like in the converter? I have turned it 3 times now and don't see a plug in the converter. I see three separate holes on the front of the flywheel and they all have bolts sticking out of them with nutz on them, but I don't see a plug on any of them or adjacent to them. I am under the truck right now, so if anyone has a picture I would appreciate it. thanks.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Question Please help Quick.

Ok. I found the plug. Go figure it was an 11mm socket. Fun stuff.

Ok, now my question is this. What the heck is this little part? It has a black o-ring around it, and the part is the size of a large green grape. I found it laying in the trany pan when I pulled it down. But more importantly, where does it go?

 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I just did some more research and found that this is the original trany dip stick plug from the factory and they fall into the pans when they assemble and fill up the trany in the trucks. No worries now, except filling it up and torquing down the trany pan bolts correctly.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Well so far, so good. I have almost put in 12 quarts of ATF, but it still isn't reading on the side of the stick with the writing on it, only the backside. If I flip the stick around, then it only reads at the very bottom of the stick on the writing side. I have been out driving it around for the last 10 minutes trying to warm everything up. I am going to let it settle down for a while and go back out tonight to fill up the truck with fuel and check the trany fluid again.

One important point is you need a funnel about 5 feet long so that you can poor in the ATF without spilling it all over the engine bay, don't ask me how I know.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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remember to check the fluid while its running and warm. that might be the reason why its not showing at all.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nflfreak43
remember to check the fluid while its running and warm. that might be the reason why its not showing at all.
That is what I have been doing, checking it while it is level and running, and warm. I went and drove around in forward and in reverse for about 10 minutes, and came back, added about a half quart twice now, and it isn't reading yet. I am at 11.5 quarts so far. I am going to let it settle for a day or two perhaps, and then go drive it and check it again.

This was and is the hardest project I have done on this truck. it took me approximately 6 hours to get this far. The hardest part was taking off that damn inspection flywheel shield, b/c that top left bolt hiding behind the starter was an absolute M/F to get out.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2

I don't believe in the theory that changing the fluid is going to ruin the tranny. The factory highly recommends changing the fluid, and the new fluid will have better lubricating properties, and the goodies in the oil will be fresh, such as the detergents that can help loosen up sticky valve spools and such.
I think that got started because of people using the wrong fluid in their trannies. Putting Type-F in a Dexron-II tranny, or visa-versa.

The only thing I can think of that would happen.
If the fluid has never been changed in it's life, it is possible that the new fluid with the better detergents will dislodge and plug up the new filter with a bunch of crap and varnish that was left over from the neglect. Just replace the filter and fluid again etc, fixed etc...

Same thing can happen with a engine oil flush on a neglected engine. It can plug up the oil pump screen requiring you to drop the pan and clean the screen.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Glockem45
Ok. I found the plug. Go figure it was an 11mm socket. Fun stuff.

Ok, now my question is this. What the heck is this little part? It has a black o-ring around it, and the part is the size of a large green grape. I found it laying in the trany pan when I pulled it down. But more importantly, where does it go?


This picture tells you, you are the first inside to change the filter and the fluid since it was built.
 
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This picture tells you, you are the first inside to change the filter and the fluid since it was built.
Ah crap.

So how do you install the dip stick correctly to check the trany fluid correctly?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Glockem45
Ah crap.

So how do you install the dip stick correctly to check the trany fluid correctly?
I believe you are already doing to correctly. If I remember right, it took around 13 quarts to fill my c6, so you are close. I do know after you put some oil in the tranny, you do have to wait a little bit for any remaining oil to run down the dipstick tube, or it does mess up your reading.

As long as the dipstick seats all the way down, it should be ok. Just put a little bit more oil in it.
 
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