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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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how to shift without clutch

a comment in another thread got me thinking...

when i first got my truck, a friend jumped in and drove it around and didn't use the clutch. he said it was a combination of RPM's, speed, and touch.

i can sometimes find my way out of the higher gears without the clutch, but never can i find my way in to any of the gears.

what is the secret?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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well from my own experience i used the clutch to get to first. then go with RPM's when it gets a little higher than when you would push the clutch in i would let off the throttle and move to a higher gear. Rule of thumb: Never and i mean NEVER shift down or into reverse with out the clutch. ive seen people tear gears to pieces and lock up tranny's like that. you should be fine, just take time and practice to get it down to a science
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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the trans has to be going the same rpms as the motor it takes practice but feather the gas while haveing light pressure on the stick and if you get it right it will slide right in
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Yea, basically you have to get the RPMs just right so everything lines up, and it will just slip right in.
Shifting down is even more of a special trick. i can go from first to fifth and back to first with no clutch.
Always clutch for reverse though.

There are tricks to slowing down shifting without the clutch, but I shoudln't tell for if you screw something up, i'd feel bad.
If you had a little truck like me, I woudln' worry as much i guess. =\
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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i can shift up an down clutchless, its really about knowing your vehicle. as you already stated its about speed and rpm.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Yea, we did effectively give all the variables to shift up or down.

In a pinch, first is reachable from a stop as well. hahaha.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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haha ya just hope there is a slight hill to start a roll and it isnt so bad, other than that its really rough on components.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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haha ya just hope there is a slight hill to start a roll and it isnt so bad, other than that its really rough on components.
Hahaha. I'm talking about the foot out the door for the nudge foward and the slam.

I bypassed my clutch switch on my truck, it was giving me poor starts, I can just leave it and gear and start it now though. haha. its really nice to bypass the switch though, you can start it from the passenger side. I do it a lot. 2 times yesterday actually.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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i cant say i've tried that on an OBS truck, but i had a buddies mustang that the clutch cable broke on. he was going to call a tow truck but i convinced him to let me drive it home. i had to start from a stop 4 times at red lights. no rolling starts, just from an idle smacked it into first gear. i have also been able to do it in a ZF-6 equipped truck in low gear but i've never tried it in a ZF-5.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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you can do it on an m5od.
hahaha!!!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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eric- while using the clutch, take note of where the engine rpms rev up to when you are down shifting. that rpm, is where you would need to rev the engine yourself when youre not using the clutch. if you get it right, it should slip right in.

when you are upshifting, really you are just waiting for the engine to slow down to the right spot and then you push it into the next gear.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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that is correct!

Joe, I was just thinking about it, and a zf6 should go in easily from a stop, probably just need to have a tiny bit of roll. that gear is so short.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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exactly! the zf-6 1st gear is so steep you can just smack the stick into gear.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Yea, its damn near worthless unless you have to start a load up hill. hahaha.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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like joe sadi you just have to know your vehicle.
 
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