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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Well, they did it

Looks like the GM and Chrysler got a bail out package, subect to a restructurnig agreement, which has to be in place in the next few months.

I sure hope we don't hear about our tax dollars paying off some GM/Chysler CEO to the tune of a million bucks (or anything ($$) for that matter).
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Sounds like Ford is doing the best out of all of them. It will be interesting to see if GM/MOPAR combine in the future.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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ford has already re-structured their company. and asked for a 9 million line of credit until about june of 2009.

chrysler need money about 2 weeks ago, and another loan in march.

gm needed money by end of december, then more in march.

remember the government has been carring chrysler since amc folded, i think this was back in early 1980's.
me myself personally chrysler should be let loose, let it fold up. but thats my personal belief.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Odd, I thought Ford said they didn't need anything now?


Where are you getting the info from?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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I thought Ford is asking for a line of credit, but will access it if needed.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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I see, I shouldn't have speed-readed.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Mike6
I sure hope we don't hear about our tax dollars paying off some GM/Chysler CEO to the tune of a million bucks (or anything ($$) for that matter).
You can 'almost' count on it.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Chrysler bailout

I watched the bailout hearing on T.V.

Chryslers C.E.O. was explaining how they had implemented a plan and was saving money and cutting costs. One thing that amazed me was:

We are saving money by cutting warranty claimes 29 per-cent.

The question I have is how do you cut a warranty claim at all unless you cheat the customer out of what is rightly due him.
The only way you can cut warranty claims any percentage is on a car that is sold. Unsold cars do not have a warranty in effect until sold.

Not one person asked Chrysler's C.E.O how they had managed to cut warranty claims 29 percent. They were in some kind of "rut" inquireing about electric cars that are more than likely 5 years in the future.







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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by UrbanXX
I watched the bailout hearing on T.V.

Not one person asked Chrysler's C.E.O how they had managed to cut warranty claims 29 percent. They were in some kind of "rut" inquireing about electric cars that are more than likely 5 years in the future.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Chrysler offering life-time warrantees on their autos for a while. I bet if they went back to the standard 36/36k warrantees would save them money. Most cars do not have major warrantee issues during the first 36/36, but once they get over 60k for miles, they creep in, especially mopars.

I can only hope they are cutting warranty claims by 29% by improving quality. Otherwise, the buyer is getting screwed in some way.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by f2501967
remember the government has been carring chrysler since amc folded, i think this was back in early 1980's.
That is in-correct.

Chrysler received a 1.5 billion dollar loan from the US Gov't in 1979 to avoid bankruptcy, then hired former Ford prez Lee Iacocca as CEO.

Chrysler paid off the Gov't loan in 1983.

Chrysler Corporation was purchased by Daimler-Benz in 1998.

In May of 2007, Daimler sold 80.1% of their Chrysler Division to Cerberus Capital Management LLC, retaining 19.9%.

AMC didn't fold, either. Renault bought AMC in 1979, sold it to Chrysler in 1987.

Originally Posted by f2501967
Ford has already re-structured
That's not correct, either.

Ford has not completed their re-structure, and the reason Ford didn't ask for a bailout is...because they already got one.

In 2006, FoMoCo put up all the company assets to get a 23.8 billion dollar loan to stave off bankruptcy.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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In reply to FastMovers question:
Wasn't Chrysler offering a lifetime warranty?


The answer is yes.
My neighbor and my son bought a Chrysler Van with lifetime warranties.

Now how can Chrysler save 29 percent on these warrantees, if they don't refuse 29 percent of legitment claimes.

Maybe it was just talk or miss speaking from the C.E.O. I really don't know.

I don't think I would buy a car from a manafacture that the C.E.O. openly said they were cutting warranty claims 29 percent without an explantion.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanXX
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Wasn't Chrysler offering a lifetime warranty?

I don't think I would buy a car from a manafacture that the C.E.O. openly said they were cutting warranty claims 29 percent without an explantion.
Like I said, I hope they improved quality by %29 or more so there are fewer repairs needed.
 
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Chrysler improve quality by 29%? Surely you jest.
 
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