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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Ford inertia switch

Is it possible to use one as a safety shut off for a non computer controlled vehicle?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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I suppose you could put one before the ignition coil?

Let me reevaulate my answer. The idea of a fuel shutoff is that with the pump in the tank on most, if not all EFI set-ups, the circuit is stopped when it triggers. The wiring to the pump has the FIS inline. One can remove the switch and link a wire inbetween the two connections to bypass the FIS (not recommended, but with a plow truck pounding snowbanks, it's one way to deal with it.). Also the FIS when interrupted tells the pump to stop (I'm repeating myself, lol). If you have a mechanical pump on the engine, then there really isn't a way to stop fuel flow. However, to kill the engine, one could put one inline of the ignition to the coil. No spark, no run. If you have a carb'd engine with an electric fuel pump, then yeah, you could put a FIS inline with the wires running to the elec. pump.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Fuel switch

Just thinking out loud; the inertia switch shuts off fuel supply by stopping pump, because fuel is under higher pressures it will run momentarily after impact, but will limit fuel flow.

If it were encorporated so that if interrrupts coil circuit , would you then introduce the hazards of losing power steering and power brakes (if you have them?) immediately ?

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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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The inertia switch when tripped shuts the vehicle down almost instantly.
There is almost no lag time between the pump shutting off and the fuel pressure dropping below the pressure necessary to make the engine run.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 52 F3
The inertia switch when tripped shuts the vehicle down almost instantly.
There is almost no lag time between the pump shutting off and the fuel pressure dropping below the pressure necessary to make the engine run.
Yeah, but on an engine with a caburetor, there's enough gas in the bowl to drive that truck another quarter mile anyway. So are you going to have the switch secure the ignition to stop the vehicle?

Or, is this something used to cut power to an electric fuel pump to stop gas flow in case of an accident where the fuel line gets cut (or opened somehow negating the shutoff effect of the carb float)?

Or Both?

I'm having a little problem figuring out what it is you are trying to do here, or trying to prevent, and what exactly this switch is going to do for you???

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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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AFAIK the FIS sends a momentary signal, so you would have to "latch" the signal with a relay, or the engine would just miss a few beats.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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My 48 F-1 with the 95 T-bird 4.6 EFI has the enertia switch from the T-bird installed to cut off the fuel pump in case of an accident that would keep fuel flowing. I would highly recommend installing one if you are using an electric fuel pump. I think it is more critical with fuel injection because of the pressure. We installed one on my son's drag racer for safety also.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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The enertia switch used on Fords trips and breaks the circuit to the fuel pump. It has to be manually reset to resume operation.
It is possible that they are now using a different system but I am not aware of it.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 52 F3
The enertia switch used on Fords trips and breaks the circuit to the fuel pump. It has to be manually reset to resume operation.
It is possible that they are now using a different system but I am not aware of it.
I'm only familiar with the ones from the 80's as well.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Sorry I left out the fact I have an electric fuel pump and carb. Thinking about safety shut off in case of accident. Joe
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Okiedokie
Sorry I left out the fact I have an electric fuel pump and carb. Thinking about safety shut off in case of accident. Joe
Oh Ok,

Then if your fuel pump is powered when you turn on the ignition switch, then why not connect it to a relay which shuts off your switched ignition power. That would kill both the power to the pump, and the ignition to prevent the engine from continuing to run on "Bowl Gas?" Like Ross suggested!

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:49 AM
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This is what you need. CRASH RELAY SWITCHES FOR ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS-Ron Francis Wiring
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:10 AM
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That looks exactly like the inertia switch used on almost every fuel injected Ford car and truck.
It will shut off the power to the pump which will prevent fuel flow from any broken lines during a crash.
If used with a carb it will not instantly shut down the engine but the real safety issue in a crash is usually preventing fuel flow from an electric pump from feeding or causing a fire.
It would be a good idea to have one and installation is very simple.
Just install it in line in the wire that powers the pump.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Thanks for all the input. I took Walstons advice and ordered the Ron Francis piece. Yes ,I know that I could spend some time and do it cheaper, but this does it quick, and his stuff is good quality. Thanks Walston, I had seen this before and forgotten about it. Joe
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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52 F3, you're right. Shutting off the fuel pump in an accident is to keep the pump from dumping fuel on the ground. A carbed engine without fuel will quickly die if it didn't stall in the accident. I would advise you to place the switch where you can reach it easily, in the unlikely event of it tripping while driving. I've only seen one of these trip once, (dumb move by the driver) but he had to reset it in the trunk while dodging traffic.
 
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