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Dec 14, 2008 | 09:13 PM

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MTDewX

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I thought it would be white smoke not black when firing it up? Just curious cause I get black smoke pissing off the cars next to me. adn white when its -16 right now. and that is even being plugged in. I need to so this, but no garage to fit the truck and if I did its not heated.
dam the luck

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Originally Posted by F350-6

Glad to see you're making progress without spending lots of $$$ at the shop. It's unusual for all the glow plugs on one side to go out together, but it's very common for one glow plug to go out, then a little while later another fails, then another and so on. Eventually you end up with a truck that doesn't like to start in cold weather and puts out a lot of black smoke.

My guess is, the bad glow plugs weren't noticed or were just ignored. Kind of a common occurrence in the South. Hope you remembered to re-torque the rocker arm pedestal bolts and lower injector hold down bolts while you were under the valve cover.

Dec 14, 2008 | 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MTDewX

What do you mean pissing off the cars next to you? Taking off from a light, or starting it up in a parking lot? White smoke is common at start up in cold weather. Black smoke is common when getting on the accelerator.

Dec 14, 2008 | 10:42 PM

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Yes black smoke while on the Go pedal.

now that its cold I REALLY get the white smoke.
was just clarifying a previous post is all.

Dec 15, 2008 | 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m0nkee221

Those that have read my previous posts know that I was having a GP or GPR issue. Well, I swapped the GPR, and nothing changed. No big deal, one less thing to worry about going south in the near future. So, I started in on the GP's today. First started with doing the ohms check. At first, I thought I was messing up the check. So, I took a new one out of the box and tested it just on it's body. Got some results. Went back and tested the old glow plugs individually using the body to get resistance. NOTHING. Absolutely nothing changed on the ohms meter. The enitire driver's side bank of GP's was dead. After swapping the old for the new, I got readings. Ran out of day light to do the passenger side, so that's on tomorrow's menu. Anyone heard of all four on one side going completely out, yet the truck still start?? Wonder what I'll find on the passenger side.

Thanks to all of you have given input. Oh, not to mention, the truck started on the second try, instead of it taking 20 minutes.

Check you under valve cover wiring harness. Having a whole bank out completley is likely, but not common. The wiring harness is probably fried making those plugs dead.

Dec 15, 2008 | 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by swaybar

this morning my truck wouldn't start, i didn't call a garage-i didn't get it towed-i didn't even get that mad. i came on here-asked for help and $3.00 later(yes three dollars-cost of a box of fuses) and my trucks up and running again.

Sounds like the #30 for the fuel bowl heater to me. One 30 amp fuse and done. Mine left me stranded at the bar...I mean church...once. Nothing worse than that.

Just a word of caution to all the hard starts out there. I thought I had a cold blooded sob even with 7 good gp's, but it turned out to be my starter. It took it almost a year for me to realize it. I threw a new, heavy duty starter in it and it turns over twice as fast. Haven't plugged it in yet and it started down to 10 degrees. My old starter faded so slowly I never realized it was going!

Dec 15, 2008 | 06:10 PM

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Um, it was white smoke I was seeing, for clarification. Also, the harnesses under the VC's are just fine. After installing the new GP's I did the ohms check on both sides and got the correct results. Still cant believe how quickly it starts when it's cold out...so much nicer than having to sit there for 20 minutes trying to get it to start.

Chris, is the $20 a one time thing or a yearly or....?