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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Stage 2 vs hybrids

I'm either getting stage 2 or hybrids not sure yet. I want power, but i don't want too much that I start breaking thing. I'm going to have head studs, valve springs and push rods by then, but don't want to throw a rod, or start breaking things inside the end.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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You can tune both to where you will still be in safe range
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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whats is safe range
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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You'll have a hard time tuning stage II's high enough to break stuff. Maxed out most stage II's will get you right at, or just short of 400 RWHP.

Hybrids OTOH, are capable of more than 500 and are easily capable of breaking stuff.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Well, you do have Forged rods, so with teh tranny and studs, etc. , 500 wouldn't be bad at a wideopen tune i dont think. Depends on how much air you got too.... TN won't handle 500 i don't think
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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I just put stage IIs in this last weekend. I can tell you that they are plenty for me. I don't want to break anything either, but with these, I just might. I don't know how much my truck can take, but it is a beast now.
 
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The TN is going bye bye



Originally Posted by STROKIN'IT7.3
Well, you do have Forged rods, so with teh tranny and studs, etc. , 500 wouldn't be bad at a wideopen tune i dont think. Depends on how much air you got too.... TN won't handle 500 i don't think
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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anyone have a vid of their truck with stage 2 injectors, or hybrids. i want to see how fast the mph goes up
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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I'm sayin a drop in wont move enough, i dont think, key word. I'm thinkin H2E or something along those lines
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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There have been plenty of 38r's making 500 over the years. Are there better suited turbo's for it....you bet there are, but a drop in will do it.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Well, i don't mind being corrected, i just didnt think it was the best option like you said.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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A stock H2E has been proven to actually flow less than a GT38R. However, the 38 is maxed out as far as it can go, however the H2E is a great platform for modifying, a 66/71/17 is a great turbo, or something along that lines. I would recommend going with hybrids, and a smaller nozzle. No matter who is tuning them, large nozzles end up killing stock rods. If i could do it again i would have done a small nozzle with a larger hybrid that actually used less oil than an A code, and my rods would probably still be in my other motor. It all depends on the tuning, ive come to find out. If i could do it again, i would go straight to the guys at Swamps Diesel... They have done their homework on the past few years, they didn't give up the 7.3, and they really have some innovative ideas. They have at least one, possibly two trucks at 650+ hp, on stock rods. Your mileage may vary, but i would be least worried blowing my motor up if i was using them
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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^^^ Nuff said, he knows his chit
 
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Hybrids are the only injector to run... dont waste time on anything else.
 
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
A stock H2E has been proven to actually flow less than a GT38R. However, the 38 is maxed out as far as it can go, however the H2E is a great platform for modifying, a 66/71/17 is a great turbo, or something along that lines. I would recommend going with hybrids, and a smaller nozzle. No matter who is tuning them, large nozzles end up killing stock rods. If i could do it again i would have done a small nozzle with a larger hybrid that actually used less oil than an A code, and my rods would probably still be in my other motor. It all depends on the tuning, ive come to find out. If i could do it again, i would go straight to the guys at Swamps Diesel... They have done their homework on the past few years, they didn't give up the 7.3, and they really have some innovative ideas. They have at least one, possibly two trucks at 650+ hp, on stock rods. Your mileage may vary, but i would be least worried blowing my motor up if i was using them




I'm going with the garrett 38R. What rods did you have? the PMR's?
 
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