Notices

5.4l oil issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:11 AM
  #1  
Palumbo's Avatar
Palumbo
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Scotland, CT
5.4l oil issue

I changed my yesterday, had about 5k on it. I use 5w-30 synthetic. After draining everything I only had about 4 quarts. It doesn't leak that I know of. Nothing on the ground. The truck only has 77k miles on it. Never had issues with truck until recently when it blew the plug out of #2. But I don't know where the oil went. Should I go to 10-30?
 
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 12:23 AM
  #2  
Saleenguy's Avatar
Saleenguy
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,938
Likes: 2
From: BC Canada
Well when you last checked the oil level, was it full, or at least above the add mark?

I check my oil every time I fill up with gas.

I never need to add oil between changes, but could not imagine the sick feeling in my stomach if I did not check it regularly, always wondering if the oil level was okay.

ps. I always run Mobil1 5w30 full syn oil in my 5.4 L.
 
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:28 AM
  #3  
ExpySport's Avatar
ExpySport
Elder User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 637
Likes: 4
From: Media, PA
The modular engines are known to use about a quart of oil every 5,000 miles or so. Knock on wood, mine uses only about 1/2 a quart between changes. I definitely wouldn't switch to 10W30. The tolerances in these engines require a thin oil and you want the oil to get to places on cold start-up. Having a thicker oil will delay that initial protection on start-up. I've always run the Motorcraft 5W-20 Synthetic Blend oil with the FL-820S oil filter. Engine has 104k and no issues, other than the slight usage of oil between changes.
 
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:43 AM
  #4  
truckeradg86's Avatar
truckeradg86
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
From: hazleton pa
Defin go back to 5-20 syn to avoid problems in the future keep an eye on your plugs to see if oil is burn ing. And check gaskets... check your oil more freq cause if ure burning 5-30 you will burn more 5-20 but its prolly just a low fill from. Last time oil was changed
 
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:30 PM
  #5  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
I have never gotten the total amount of oil out of any engine. About 1 qt is usually in the filter and some is laying on top of engine componants. Especially in the lifter valley of a pushrod engine as well as a bit laying in the heads.
Seems like a 5qt engine's old oil will always fit in a gallon (4 qt) milk jug.

Oh, and I agree, stick with 5w20. Motorcraft has a good syn-blend at Walmart.
 
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 06:24 AM
  #6  
skinner24's Avatar
skinner24
Mountain Pass
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 143
Likes: 1
Check the pcv valve. My 5.4L started burning oil at about 70,000 miles. Had never done it before til then. I think it was about 1 1/2 quarts low. I pulled the pcv valve off and had to beat it against a concrete wall to get it to rattle. Bought a brand new one and has never been low on oil anymore. Truck has 81,000 miles on it now. By the way the oil has been changed every three thousand miles with motorcraft 5w20 and motorcraft filter. Just changed over to Mobil 1 synthetic.
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:05 AM
  #7  
jethro b's Avatar
jethro b
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Go to 10W40 and just skip the 10W30.
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 09:08 PM
  #8  
bfornesi's Avatar
bfornesi
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
not a wise *** but oil WILL evaporate then is burned in engine you never see it worn rings and valve guides also
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:11 AM
  #9  
Warbird Mechanic's Avatar
Warbird Mechanic
Junior User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Beavercreek, Ohio
I would do a compression leak down test and see if the piston rings are still good. I have seen in some rare instantances where the ring ends will line up on the piston causing some blow by to occur which can indeed cause excessive oil consumption. Otherwise it may just be worn valve guides.
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:03 PM
  #10  
galaxie641's Avatar
galaxie641
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,517
Likes: 3
From: SE Wyoming
4qts after 5K miles and I assume you didn't check the level in those 5K, that is right in line with normal use. Right around 60K I found mine 2 qts low one day and that is when I started using 1qt every couple thousand miles. Thicker oil will do noting but hurt the engine more, if it is using oil in a way that thicker oil helps you have bigger issues. Since this thread is a few months old has anything happened to the engine in the interim?
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:41 PM
  #11  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
Originally Posted by jethro b
Go to 10W40 and just skip the 10W30.
Bad move. These engine need oil to the heads asap at start-up and 10w-40 is way too thick to do the job. These engines also have much tighter tolerances that older engines an require no thicker than 5w-30.
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 03:52 PM
  #12  
jethro b's Avatar
jethro b
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Palumbo
I changed my yesterday, had about 5k on it. I use 5w-30 synthetic. After draining everything I only had about 4 quarts. It doesn't leak that I know of. Nothing on the ground. The truck only has 77k miles on it. Never had issues with truck until recently when it blew the plug out of #2. But I don't know where the oil went. Should I go to 10-30?
Running that thin of oil greatly adds to the burning. Stick with 10W40 of better and the burning will be reduced. Summer I run half 20W50 and half 10W40 and in the winter it's straight 10W40.
Can't be doing too much damage to mine to get this kinda miles outta it huh?
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:12 PM
  #13  
schpifford's Avatar
schpifford
New User
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
wow...maybe sawdust and 80-120w

Originally Posted by jethro b
Running that thin of oil greatly adds to the burning. Stick with 10W40 of better and the burning will be reduced. Summer I run half 20W50 and half 10W40 and in the winter it's straight 10W40.
Can't be doing too much damage to mine to get this kinda miles outta it huh?
Love ya man.
Gimme holler if any of your friends need a rebuild on their 5.4
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 02:42 AM
  #14  
jethro b's Avatar
jethro b
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by schpifford
Love ya man.
Gimme holler if any of your friends need a rebuild on their 5.4
Sarcasm, NICE! What's the most miles you can get out of a 5.4?
I expect another 100K or more. It runs too dang good.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:09 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE