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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Batteries discharging

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The batteries in my '89 F-250 are going flat overnight. I'm suspecting the voltage regulator or a bad diode in the alternator. Anywhere else that I should check? Am I on the right track here?
Thanks for any input.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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disconnect the large charging wire at the alternator and see ifit sparks when you touch it back if not the diodes are ok
next disconnect all of the electrical connetions at the starter solenoid and check and see which one has a draw on it then onto that system
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Wouldn't be a bad idea to get the batteries checked. You might have one good, one bad. Just dealing with that myself. The good batteries drains to the bad one. They should be replaced in pairs if you can.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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The batteries are new. I replaced them last Tuesday and the voltmeter needle has read way higher than it used to... I checked the large charging wire at the alternator and got no sparking.(ignition off) Still have to check the solenoid. My test light shows current flow across both large terminals with the ignition switch off. Should that be?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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You have a current draw, something is sticking on. Next problem is finding out what...
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fellro86
You have a current draw, something is sticking on. Next problem is finding out what...
Start pulling fuses one by one and see if you can find the culprit. Also try unplugging the alt. and check for draw.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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To find any battery draw..

Disconnect both battery ground cables. Connect volt meter, head lite, trouble lite or horn between cable end and one battery. If there is any draw, the lite will be on, the meter will show voltage or the horn will make noise. Slowly remove the fuses and notice if the lite goes out or the horn stops honking. Next is to remove all connections at the start relay on the passenger inner fender. The fault should quickly become known. After repair, pull on the head lite switch and notice test lite will be on. Frank in Idaho
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Have you used a volt meter to check your alt output.
Once you know your charging system is working properly.
Remove your negative battery cables both of them.
take a standard test light clip to negative battery post and negative batt cable.
Anothing pulling juice will light up the light (dome light under hood light clock etc) you will need to disable these.
Key off if your test lightis lit you have a constant draw.
Start pulling your fuses rember where they go check test light after every fuse.
When light goes out you have narrowed it down to the circuit that is the problem.
IF your light stays on you can start un hooking wires on solenoid and alt.
I have fount that the problem is usually in aftermarket accessorys or the circuit they were hooked to.
Inspect for discolored wires around the end of the wires around your solenoids and relays.
 
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Originally Posted by frank-id
Disconnect both battery ground cables. Connect volt meter, head lite, trouble lite or horn between cable end and one battery. If there is any draw, the lite will be on, the meter will show voltage or the horn will make noise. Slowly remove the fuses and notice if the lite goes out or the horn stops honking. Next is to remove all connections at the start relay on the passenger inner fender. The fault should quickly become known. After repair, pull on the head lite switch and notice test lite will be on. Frank in Idaho
The meter hooked up that way will not work on a modern vehicle with radio and computer memories. It will always show voltage, because it doesn't present enough load. The testlight and horn will work though. Make sure you disconnect both batteries on a diesel and just hook up to one.

 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Did you have the alternator checked when you replaced the batteries?

I have had a couple alternators fail so a meter would not catch it.
They were putting out 14.5 volts, but only 5 amps.

When the parts guy checked the batteries, he said they needed charged, and the alternator was fine.

I was running a 150 amp alternator.

So I had to ask why the alternator was only putting out 5 amps if the batteries were low.

He insisted the alternator was fine, I insisted on a new alternator.

5 amps would charge the batteries if you drove long enough and had nothing like the lights or heater running.
But if you had anything on, the batteries are discharging while you are driving.
And they would not start it the next morning.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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you said you have current at both large terminals you are talking about the two with the 9/16 size nuts is that correct
if so disconnect the one that does not have the fuse links attached to it
see if there is voltage at the terminal if not check the wire you disconnected from it
you have a draw either from the fender mounted solenoid or the starter mounted solenoid by discoonecting the ternimals and probing both you will find it
 
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