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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Hard starting like always........

As usual, it cranks and cranks and when if FINALLY does start, blows the ususal white smoke, rump-rump-rumps and then finally smooths out. Temp is only in 20s.
Replaced the glow plug relay, did the resistance test on the harness and I can actually see the dome light dim...but still acts like no glow plug assist.

This is a federal diesel, so just a simple relay, and running DELO oil. Thanks!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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What is your voltage at turn over.. Delo oil? and what weight?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Delo M400 oil 15/40 and sitting volage is 12.8, key on drops to 11.5 and crank is 9.8 (measued at power-point outlet)
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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You need like 10.5 for the PCM to work.. you might have found your problem.. Check connections, if they are good, check the bateries one at a time.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nightskyisme
crank is 9.8 (measued at power-point outlet)

Measure at the batteries, but 9.8 is far too low to make the IDM fire the injectors.

When it cranks and cranks, is there any white smoke out of the exhaust after about 5-7 seconds? If not, your injectors are not being commanded to open or you have High Pressure Oil issues.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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I bet your batteries are having issues since it's cold out.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Both batteires have been tested and are putting out their rated capacity......850CCAs Is the oil grade too think? Maybe switch to a 5w something??? Do these trucks EVER start properly? This never has and is why I am selling it.....
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Based on what you said though, in regards to the voltage while turning over, I would still work in this area for at least a couple more checks. See if you can turn any of the post connectors, if so, try tightening them.
As fars as do they ever start right, most of the time, otherwise we all of us wouldn't be so proud of them.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Both batteires have been tested and are putting out their rated capacity......850CCAs Is the oil grade too think? Maybe switch to a 5w something??? Do these trucks EVER start properly? This never has and is why I am selling it.....
5w-40 is synthetic oil, it will cure those romps for you on startup. And if everything is working order, your truck will easily startup in the cold! I have no probs starting all the way down to 0* without being plugged in.
 
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By the way, 5w will help.
 
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Ok, Ill check and re-check the batteries.....whats a good 5W oil??? And I meant do they ever start in the COLD without issues? Mine starts great above 40.....
 
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Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40 is a great oil. Another great oil is Schaeffers 5w-40 Synthetic, just might not be as easy to get without ordering. I've always used Rotella with great results
 
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i use amsoil, it is my opinion that most synthetics are good..
 
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