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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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firing order question

I bought a 88 f150 that was suppose to have a Mustang 5.0L in it. It does have all the front pulley set-up from the Mustang, but I noticed the firing order was regular truck order not the HO order. The truck idles, and run great now, but I thought I would swap it, and check to see if it would run better on the HO order. But, it did not at idle, I did not drive. I idled rough, and smelt rich.

Does the timing need to be checked, and set again after doing this? Or, is it that they might have installed a truck cam in the Mustang motor?

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure it won't run on the HO order. Nik
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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It started, and ran both ways, but I did not drive.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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if it's a HO motor it will only run right on the HO order. The 5.0 and 5.8 orders are diff, not sure of the 5.0 but the HO order is the same as the 5.8, which is 13726548
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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running and running right are two different things.

so it was running real good and you just thought to change the firing order to see if it would be better?

you lost me on this one.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Yeah, I was told it was an HO motor, but it wired as a regular 5.0L. I was mainly checking to make sure.

But, would you have to re-time it after the wiring change to make sure? Or, is the timing corect no matter what?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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#1 position does not change and the distributor does not move, so no, the timing would not change by simply swapping the four of the wires around.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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That is what I thought, but wanted to make sure. So, they must have changed cams in it, as it idles smoother wired regular 5.0. So much for the idea of going Mustang MAF on it without a cam change.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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It's probably a regular car motor... it is pretty hard to tell what you're looking at if the obvious exterior things are missing. You could still put mass air on it though, you'll just have to re-arrange 4 injector wires that's all.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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I read on fuelinjection.com that it will work that way, but not be right exactly. It has the Mustang front dress on it, alt, PS, and ac(that does not work, and missing parts)

They were idiots that put the truck together. They just threw parts on half way, and did not think things out.
 
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As far as 5.0 and 5.8 firing orders go, don't the 5.0 truck motors use the 5.8 firing order after 94 or something like that? Which firing order do the 5.0 HO motors use?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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93 and under truck, cars 5.0l use the 13726548

94 up 5.0l truck, mustang HO, and 5.8 use 15426378

if I remember correctly
 
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Originally Posted by jonwoos
93 and under truck, cars 5.0l use the 13726548

94 up 5.0l truck, mustang HO, and 5.8 use 15426378

if I remember correctly
Dates are right.. but the firing ordes are reversed, '93 and under trucks use 1542... , '94 and up use 1373...
 
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Originally Posted by jonwoos
I read on fuelinjection.com that it will work that way, but not be right exactly.
That's only when using individual O2 sensors to feed L and R inputs on the computer, if a single O2 sensor is used to feed both inputs it's not a problem.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Ok, did not think of that. I might still give MAF a try then sometime.

Thanks for the help.
 
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