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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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I never have done brakes before and neither did my dad. We are going to go together on some stuff to do brakes on our SDs. We have always taken our vehicles to a shop to do brakes however a good shop is hard to find. We would rather do it ourselves.

I figured I would get the bleeder in this article. https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...Made_Easy.html

My dad has Cryos and hawk SD fleet pads on the front of his 03' CC SD. he bought the same pads for the back also but the shop didn't put them on because they said his brakes were like new in the rear. Want it done have to do it yourself. He is not happy with the brakes on his truck and my 04' SC SD (All stock brakes) brakes much better than his truck but still could use improvement.

I was looking at the 8 piston front caliper upgrade but can't see spending 2 grand right now on them.

Thanks for the info guys.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
I never have done brakes before and neither did my dad. We are going to go together on some stuff to do brakes on our SDs. We have always taken our vehicles to a shop to do brakes however a good shop is hard to find. We would rather do it ourselves.

I figured I would get the bleeder in this article. https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...Made_Easy.html

My dad has Cryos and hawk SD fleet pads on the front of his 03' CC SD. he bought the same pads for the back also but the shop didn't put them on because they said his brakes were like new in the rear. Want it done have to do it yourself. He is not happy with the brakes on his truck and my 04' SC SD (All stock brakes) brakes much better than his truck but still could use improvement.

I was looking at the 8 piston front caliper upgrade but can't see spending 2 grand right now on them.

Thanks for the info guys.
I would try bleeding the brakes good and a fluid change out first. As for 8 piston upgrade that's a pretty big setup. I can't even think of a time when I could possibly need that heavy a setup but then I rarely tow anything.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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I believe that 8 pistons on the stock rotor is a bit of a waste. Now if you had say 50% more pad surface than the 8 pistons would be really nice and you could throw passengers through the windshield.

I agree on the fluid change, plus look up the mod Monsta shows in another post about adjusting the rod in the master cylinder to remove some creep from the pedal. Once I get my tonneau cover situated, I am going to try it again. Changing the fluid is a big help, plus your going to have to bleed the system after changing the lines, you might as well go through the whole gallon.

I used 6 cans of PF Z-fluid, I had to flush my fluid because it turned green. I think 4 qts should replace most all of the fluid in the system.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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It looks to me like the 8 piston calipers have larger pads, how much larger I don't know. I'm shure clamping pressure would be increased quite a bit. If they were only a grand OK, but 2 grand is hard to swallow just to try something out.

I'll check out Monstas article.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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It looks to me like the 8 piston calipers have larger pads, how much larger I don't know. I'm shure clamping pressure would be increased quite a bit. If they were only a grand OK, but 2 grand is hard to swallow just to try something out.

I'll check out Monstas article.
Do you have a link to these big brake kits?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Well I fibbed a little on the price.....the fronts only cost $1730 for the caliper and pad kit. You'll want new rotors though, probably cryos. Stainless Steel Brakes A193-1R - Stainless Steel Brakes Quick Change Caliper Upgrade Kits - summitracing.com

Looks like they come in black too. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

If you pull the trigger on a set please let us know how they work.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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I installed a set from Russell. I had flushed the brake fluid a few weeks before I bought the line kit on a whim when I saw them on EBay for a good price. I didn't notice any brake pedal feel after installing them. Biggest difference was a few weeks before when I flushed the entire system. I do love the look of them and was the only reason I got them to begin with.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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It looks to me like the 8 piston calipers have larger pads, how much larger I don't know. I'm shure clamping pressure would be increased quite a bit. If they were only a grand OK, but 2 grand is hard to swallow just to try something out.

I'll check out Monstas article.
Clamping pressure would be increased tremendously ... as long as you upgraded the master cylinder size to accommodate the increased fluid movement. You could engage your ABS milliseconds faster with 8 pots vs stock.

Unless you are doing something exotic, they'd be nothing but driveway jewelry and a big hole in your check book.

All that clamping force does you no good if you can't achieve any more grip from the tire. A sliding tire doesn't care if it's a Q-Tip on a tin can lid or 8 pistons clamping against 20s.

Now, $100 to duct air to the rotor and caliper ... that's bang for the buck braking upgrade.
 
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You got a part # or a link to the kit?
Here is the link: Russel Brake Line
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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Here is the link: Russel Brake Line
Thanks for the link.
 
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