Ford PCM's all use low impedance injectors.(except a few obscure oddballs-none you're gonna see). They will all changeover electrically,but the connectors are different from the Lightning and the Cobra. The OEM '05-up V10's are the same connector as the Cobra-those would be the easiest for the install. There's not really a certain part number reference,and most of the numbers cast on the parts are engineering numbers,and there's no reference at all on those as they differ from the actual part numbers as cataloged by Ford in the system. If you're gonna use an OEM truck V10 PCM,then you'll need to stay with returnless fuel-that's what it's setup to control. You'll also need to use the FPDM and a pump assembly that's supported.
JL

 

What about RC injectors? They're available for darn near everything I've ever had to order them for, and they come with flow numbers for each injector. I've never seen them out more than 2 or 3 % across an order. Great units.

For the ECU, why is it you can't use a stand alone system? You Aussies make some of the best aftermarket ECUs going! mmm E11V2 - Haltech Engine Management Systems

 

just curious if you have made any progress with your ecu and remade harness to get your bare motor running ?

 

I have had a minor set back to shed time with a new born, 2 under 2 is not as easy when you are trying to sort a build!

I have removed my covers, and given them a start on for a polish.

My 4 link arrived the day before the baby so I have been trying to get that mounted so at least the back is on it's wheels.

Getting there just very slowly

I was hoping to get a heap done over the christmas break, but I struggled to get anything done.

As for the engine harness and ECU, I have talked to Barr @ BPT and he assures me he can get me a suitable factory controller and harness providing I can get him some numbers off teh engnie.

I am now considering running N/A to get it running and coming back to re-visit to boosted side of things. The ute has been off the road for nearly 18 months and it is killing me not having it.

 

WOW just found this post that car is awsome. Glad to see you goin with the V 10. I am in awe of the condition of your ride good luck FMC351.

 

That car should be super fun N/A. Probably a good idea to set it up N/A first to work out the bugs then go for the turbos. Great looking car and project. I'll be watching this thread.

 

Thunderbird supercoupes have the highest lb/hr. Rating of all production cars short of the porsche boxter. They are 36 lb/hr and can be had for under $28 a piece from rockauto.com. You would have to use the electrical plug adapters though in this case.

 

Nope-that would be incorrect. The '03-'04 Cobras use a 39lb/hr injector,and the Lightning uses a 42lb/hr injector.
JL

 

ironicly my name is ben and about 5 years ago i decided i wanted to make a v10 twin turbo aswell... ive been trying to find an aftermarket ecu that is simple but no luck so ive slowly been re-wiring mine finding a few bad connections... just thought it neat to see someone else with the same idea

 

My bad, old info I guess.

 

FMC351 that's a sweet ride good luck with your build

 

Hi all, thanks for the nice comments.

Well, bubs is getting bigger and so I have had the chance to spend some time in the shed.

Not much has physically changed in the engine department other than it is in the bay, dang these things are BIG




and if you are wondering about suspension, this is what sgoing in the front since the towers are on the scrap heap to clear the mod.



I have spent a fair amount of time on the rear end, getting the 4 link in and putting the back together, here are some pics of the installation, now complete minus the sheet metal work.

Wheels are some spares I have since I sold the Welds to help funds along.




In the engine department I have struck a few issues, or more like further questions.

I still have not got a harness or PCM, I did get a hold of Barry, a few times but it has been months and he still has not given me a price on the parts I need, so I think I will purchase them myself and possibly take it too him later. I will buy all original parts to suit.

I am still planning a TT build, but that will come down the track after a forged low comp re-build, for the time being I want to get it running N/A and have a bit of fun with it.

So my questions.

Firstly
Fly By Wire.....I have a cable set up and would really like to keep it, can this be done? I know I can get a twin 50mm cable operated TB, but will this work, I am getting mixed answers, some say no way the system requires feed back, others can't see why not. The straightest answer I have gotten is to come back to the US and ask you guys....you have been doing it for longer

Secondly
MAF / MAP
I am told these came with a MAF, is that all they run, our latest MOD's here come with both and the earlier I think is just MAP? At the moment I don't have a MAF, but was advised to get an American "slot style" and just run this. Will this work for the N/A and also when the boost comes along? If I must run a MAF (I would prefer not to and try to keep all the intake plumbing ontop of the engine) are there specific dimensions they have to be installed, ie no turn with in xx inches and in a diameter of xx tube?

Finally
PCM / ECU
Will the engine harness and computer work for just the engine? I have been reading about another chap who is certain all is right and he can't get spark, he is talking about the body module requiring a minimum amount of input??? I was under the impression that the engine harness and ECU would be all I need if not running and electronic trans (I can only find a C4 - Mod bellhousing and am not too keen on an electronic box)

Any help here would really be appreciated as once I know what I need I can then track it down and buy it.

Cheers Ben

 

See some recent thread by a member "nicebenz" - he's put a 3-valve V10 into a 2-valve chassis and had to fab some stuff up to make it work. He was able to put a cable-operated throttle body on the 3-valve intake.

All V10's are MAF as far as I know. I don't think they ever used MAP on these modulars in the US, at least after 1996 or so.

Don't know why that guy can't get spark, post a link to that, I'd love to read it. A manual-transmission PCM would be the way to go, but then, if you don't do the fly-by-wire throttle, you're going to be using a Ford 2-valve PCM I think

 

See some recent thread by a member "nicebenz" - he's put a 3-valve V10 into a 2-valve chassis and had to fab some stuff up to make it work. He was able to put a cable-operated throttle body on the 3-valve intake.

All V10's are MAF as far as I know. I don't think they ever used MAP on these modulars in the US, at least after 1996 or so.

Don't know why that guy can't get spark, post a link to that, I'd love to read it. A manual-transmission PCM would be the way to go, but then, if you don't do the fly-by-wire throttle, you're going to be using a Ford 2-valve PCM I think

 

Ok Krewit,

Here is the link to the other chap, his is trying to run a 3V with a E350 2v ECU and seems to be having trouble. He has a couple of posts on this other place and does not seem to be getting the help he is after.

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...?t=136084]2008 V-10 engine swap help! - ModularFords.com

Using a 2V ECU had never crossed my mind, were the 2V's cable operated? Will this be compatible with a 3V engine or will I run into the same problems this other chap is. Are the harnesses the same across the models?

I am so out of my depth with this managment, it makes building a chassis a piece of cake!