Did you compair the old springs to the new springs? When i put in my 4" springs, they were much much bigger. They were thicker, more coil wraps, and about 3-3.5 inches taller. 2" shouldn't be that much different i would guess. The 2" should be thicker. When i got my 4" springs, i got worried, becuase they looked so big that they might have been 6" springs instead of 4. But they lifted it 4".


Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

well, i mean i'm sure you looked at the difference, but were the new ones any bigger is what i meant.

Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

the new ones were way bigger, i mean the had more coil wraps and were alot thicker

 

Thats a really weird situation and first i've ever heard something wrong with skyjacker. I think i'm running out of ideas. Mikej is ontop of things checking out the stabilizer and shocks, but i don't think those should be a problem with only a 2" lift. The stabilzer isn't a problem on a 4" lift, it comes into play with a 6" lift. I didn't think the shocks would be the problem either. Simply because you would either break the shock, or if it was strong enough, the tire would come off the ground like it had limiting straps on it. Also, if u pushed down on the bumper, it would go down and come up and slam. Theres just no way the shocks are that short, it would do that on a 4" lift, not 2. Like i said, i'm out of ideas and that is very uncharacteristic of skyjackers quality. Somethin's screwy, i just don't know what it is.


Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

rbrendel,

I would recommend you contact Skyjacker and speak to them about your situation. They determined mine right away and may be able to do the same for you.

Mike

93' F-150 Ext Cab 5.0L E4OD, MSD, K&N, 31x10.50's

 

hey whats skyjackers email address i couldnt locate it on their site

 

i think i just figured out what is wrong with mikes springs, they are sagging, that dude used them up already because supposedly springs start to sag a good inch after time, thats why i didnt buy used ones, well after many opinions of suspension experts in my town the shocks are fine they have enough travel, the stablizer bar has nothing to do with it, it is just plain weight, one guy said he had the same problem with his ford a while back and he said it was because the 2wd are made to ride real low in the front, all the weight on the front are on the springs, i dont know if this guy is right but it sounds good to me, fords are horrible about sagging springs fast especially the 2wd models because they were not made to have any lift in the front stock whatsover, thats why the superlift 2wd springs are more expensive than the 4wd levelers, because the 2wd springs are hell of alot more beefier. the skyjacker 2 inch springs are excellent for 4wd thats what they were made for, it would ahve been easier if we would have just gotten the superlift 2wd 2 inch levelers :-X23 mike where did you get the 2 inch spacers i need those.

 

Update....Looks like my springs are superlift brand. The problem is that they are for the standard cab trucks, not my extended cab. Superlift makes a different spring for the different cab models. Talked to them today and although there is no way to tell for sure by looking at it, Superlift was pretty positive that was what was going on in my case.

rbrendel, I got my spacers on ebay, however I did not get the stud extenders with them. I would recommend you try AZ4x4f150, from this forum. He sells them as well and it will be cheaper in the long run than buying the spacers and extenders separately.

Skyjacker does not have a tech line e-mail address that I am aware of. Give them a call first at (318) 388-0816 to speak to someone directly and let them know you want to send them pics.


Mike

93' F-150 Ext Cab 5.0L E4OD, MSD, K&N, 31x10.50's

 

Ok, maybe I can inform you guys from having both a 95 2wd and a 95 4x4. The springs should not be sagging, it takes years and years for springs to sag. The lift springs you bought, will settle out a little bit. My old 4" superlift springs were set to compinsate for that, they gave me about 4.5"s of lift in the front, and settled to 4. Tell you what, I will measure my truck and compair it to yours rbrendel. I put a picture in my gallery, of how I measured my front and rear height, so check it out. My front height was 12.5 and the rear 15 inches. If you got the right lift, you should have 12.5 or close to it. My stock 4x4 should be almost the same height as your 2" lifted 2wd truck. However, mine will be 2" heigher in the back, because mine has stock 2" lift blocks. If mine is a little more than 2" heigher in the back, its because when the front is lifted 2", it puts more weight on the rear springs, so you're rear springs might have gone down a 1/2 inch or so from the extra weight shift. 2wd trucks, whether its ford, dodge, or chevy, ride lower than a 4x4. They do that because a 2wd isn't expected to see anything but pavement. The springs are the same on a 4x4 or 4x2, as you know.

I don't know what "he said it was because the 2wd are made to ride real low in the front, ALL THE WEIGHT ON THE FRONT ARE ON THE SPRINGS" is suppose to mean. The SPRUNG weight on a 4x4 and 4x2 are the same. Its the UNSPRUNG weight of the 4x4 ttb axle thats different. In case you don't know the difference, unsprung weight is below the springs, sprung weight is above the springs(anything the springs are holding up).

"fords are horrible about sagging springs fast especially the 2wd models"-----this line isn't true. Fords arn't horrible about sagging springs, whats makes you conclude this? Again, the springs on a 4x4 are the same as a 4x2.


"because they were not made to have any lift in the front stock whatsover"---this isn't true either, it doesnt make sense, a 2wd is built exactly the same as a 4x4, you could bolt a TTB 4x4 in place of the twin I-beams and its the same. A lift kit for a 4-6+ lift kit is the same for a 4x4 or 4x2. Same brackets, parts everything (except radius arms). ITS THE SAME...

I know a lot about the differences between a 4x4 and 4x2 because I was about to convert my old 2wd into 4x4. Its really easy when you think about it, simply because everything is the same. You unbolt the 2wd, get it out. You bolt in the TTB, hook up the radius arms, and your good to go suspension wise. (thats the basics) The parts are interchangeable and its a direct bolt up.


I can't explain why superlift has different springs for a 4x4 and 4x2. There is no reason why, i have no clue. Not considering the front axle and transfer case, a 4x4 and 4x2 weight the same, its the same truck, thats why stock, both a 4x4 and 4x2 have the same springs. When I bought my 4" superlift kit, they had a different 4" front spring for an extended cab vs regular cab, but NOT different springs for a 4x4 or 4x2.

Again, not considering the axle, a 4x4 has roughly the same weight on the front as a 2wd does. The differences in front and rear height are the same for a 4x4 or 4x2. My truck has a 2.5 inch difference in height from front to back. The 2wds have the same difference. So therefore, there isn't anymore weight on the front of a 2wd as there is on a 4wd.


This is a mouthful, and i hope you can follow along, if not, i can straighten you out, even i had trouble understanding this, its a confusing topic.





Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

Mikej, i'd be a little weary of that supercab/regular cab thing. Ford uses the same springs for either application on stock trucks, and the difference in weight only changes the height about 3/4s of an inch.
But, it might be the problem.

Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

Superlift makes two seperate leveling springs for the F-150. One for the Regular cab (model #117) and the Extended cab (model #129). Ford may use the same springs from the factory, but Superlift makes seperate aftermarket coils. This is straight from from the superlift tech I spoke with on the phone, as well as can be noted in their application guide on their web page. I have no idea what the actual difference is, yet know that the springs leveled a regular cab out and does very little in changing the height of my ext. cab's front end.

Mike

93' F-150 Ext Cab 5.0L E4OD, MSD, K&N, 31x10.50's

 

Well, one of the reasons why ford uses the same springs, is because the extended cab doesn't add THAT much more weight. Its only the bench seat, the sheet metal, and the extra 2 feet of frame and driveshaft. I don't know what else to say, its a mystery.


Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

well guys i have been following your problem with your leveling coils . i have a 95 f150 4x4 short box regular cab ; i also had the same problem with the back end sitting higher than the front end . what i did was install a set of air bags in the front coils ' put 50 pounds of air pressure in them and it brought the front end up level with the back end . the air bags have been in there over a year now and it still sits level . it handles better now steers better now and no front end adjustment was needed . it cost me a 100 bucks for the air bags about an hour to install them and i run 33x12.50 on them with no lift kit at all .

 

Just for clarification, its not a "problem" that the rear sits heigher, its suppose to to carry weight. But, airbags arn't that great in the front. The main issue is alignment. Everytime you change the height of the truck, it will be out of alignment. And if you lift the front with airbags, it will be difficult to align in the first place.


Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

like i said this wasnt my opinion it was the opinion of one of our offroad shops here, it prob is not even close to right but i dont know much more than the dude at the offroad shop. i guess i just gave into the fact that leveling coils all suck, i dunno. i just cant figure out what is wrong with mine. there has to be something with the 2wd that keep the springs from working properly, i thought about going over to the dealership and asking one of mechanics if he knew of anything that would cause it, and yes i am positive those springs will sag, and i will notice it because i barely have enough room to fit those 32's, all springs sag