4R100 Slushbox Problem
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Mine feels that way when I'm pulling a mountain or if I accelerate hard. From what I've read on here I think its the torque converter locking and/or unlocking.
If someone chimes in that this is indeed a problem, then I too am interested in whatever fix might be in order
Edit -- Before I bought my '04, I testdrove an '03 supercab and it felt the same way.
If someone chimes in that this is indeed a problem, then I too am interested in whatever fix might be in order
Edit -- Before I bought my '04, I testdrove an '03 supercab and it felt the same way.
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If you have an auto trans in an 04' gasser its a 4R100. The 4R100 only has an ON/Off button to lock out OD, no tow haul.
The 4R100 has a very soft mushy shift stradegy and TQ lockup takes forever, slides in and unlocks too much. If your trans is mechanically sound you can put a new accumulator on it however it will only firm up the shifts at the shift points and nothing else. TQ lockup, lag, shiftpoints and etc stay stock. Again if the trans is mechanically sound I would look at a tuner. I just removed the FT accumulator from my 04' 4R100 and went with a custom tune from Mike at Five Star Tuning. Really makes a difference and the tune is safe. the friggin TQ locks up much faster and stays locked.
The 4R100 has a very soft mushy shift stradegy and TQ lockup takes forever, slides in and unlocks too much. If your trans is mechanically sound you can put a new accumulator on it however it will only firm up the shifts at the shift points and nothing else. TQ lockup, lag, shiftpoints and etc stay stock. Again if the trans is mechanically sound I would look at a tuner. I just removed the FT accumulator from my 04' 4R100 and went with a custom tune from Mike at Five Star Tuning. Really makes a difference and the tune is safe. the friggin TQ locks up much faster and stays locked.
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I wasn't aware there was a difference between tow/ haul mode and overdrive on/off. I just figured it was a terminology thing... yet again I've learned something else! Thanks DKF, is that tune for gassers?
All my GM buddies run HP Tuners but it aint compatible with Fords yet
All my GM buddies run HP Tuners but it aint compatible with Fords yet
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The tow/haul mode changes shift points up/down to keep power up where the OD on/off locks out OD. The 4R100 will still feel like 4 speed since the shifts are 1-2-3-TC lockup-OD (from what I understand there are some times that the TC will lockup after 2nd during extended slow speed towing, but don't quote me on that).
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Now that we have determined what trans you have, to answer your original question:
Yes, there are many different "shift kits" available for your transmission.
They range from entire valve body replacements, down to an accumulator springs mod, and down even more to just drilling a few holes in the valve body.
The group here is very opinionated about their preferences, and will each give you theirs.
Pop
Yes, there are many different "shift kits" available for your transmission.
They range from entire valve body replacements, down to an accumulator springs mod, and down even more to just drilling a few holes in the valve body.
The group here is very opinionated about their preferences, and will each give you theirs.
Pop
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I've tried both the electronic method and a modified valve body. OD never goes in like I want, it's still kind of soggy compared to 1-2 and 2-3. My tuner gave me Stock, Mild, Firm and race shift pressures, I used race on all of them. Then I learned that the extra effort on the pump strains it and can cause it wear out prematurely, it was also supposed to "wash away" the lubricating properties of the fluid. I detuned the shift pressures and installed a factory tech valve body. The shifts were much crisper and the trans ran a bit cooler.
You can go for the B&M shift plus, a transgo shift kit or a modified valve body but after my experiences, I would just pony up the cash for the valve body with transgo coming in a close second.
You can go for the B&M shift plus, a transgo shift kit or a modified valve body but after my experiences, I would just pony up the cash for the valve body with transgo coming in a close second.
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I've tried both the electronic method and a modified valve body. OD never goes in like I want, it's still kind of soggy compared to 1-2 and 2-3. My tuner gave me Stock, Mild, Firm and race shift pressures, I used race on all of them. Then I learned that the extra effort on the pump strains it and can cause it wear out prematurely, it was also supposed to "wash away" the lubricating properties of the fluid. I detuned the shift pressures and installed a factory tech valve body. The shifts were much crisper and the trans ran a bit cooler.
You can go for the B&M shift plus, a transgo shift kit or a modified valve body but after my experiences, I would just pony up the cash for the valve body with transgo coming in a close second.
You can go for the B&M shift plus, a transgo shift kit or a modified valve body but after my experiences, I would just pony up the cash for the valve body with transgo coming in a close second.
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I wasn't aware there was a difference between tow/ haul mode and overdrive on/off. I just figured it was a terminology thing... yet again I've learned something else! Thanks DKF, is that tune for gassers?
All my GM buddies run HP Tuners but it aint compatible with Fords yet
All my GM buddies run HP Tuners but it aint compatible with Fords yet
Guys I'm completely aware of valve bodies and etc for the 4R100. I just removed the factory tech accumulator from my truck. The FT unit only firms up shifts at the shift point thats it. Everything else is left stock and the TQ slips like a ***** and unlocks constantly. Tuning should be done in conjuction with a VB or other mechanical mod but its a somewhat long process to tweak everything so it works good. I did like the shift firmness with my FT VB but decided to remove it because getting the VB and tuning perfect was a PITA.
A tuner is very safe for the drivetrain, trans included IF you don't go wild on the shift pressures and torque modulation and pressure is increase at the shift point only. The majority of shops that do custom tuning know where the line is. I monitor trans line pressure on my Scangauge and there is little difference in line pressure between my FT VB with stock trans settings and the tune I'm running now.