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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Hope everyone is good. Been awhile for me here on FTE. Short story. 68 with 390--well built--explained if needed--C6, power brakes,power steering, rebuilt front end, and AC.

Problem....Rust. My 68 is rusting away. i haven't had the chance to paint and repair. repair cost is an issue. I have chance to buy a 77 with a straight body and no rust. It has a 302 and c4. I want to swap my current 390 and c6. I also want to swap my front end which is completely rebuilt ,..king pins and all. My question is.. will have the ability to do this. I know the 77 F100 didn't have the FE option. Did the frame have the FE perch holes? PS holes? front end swap issues? Any problems here?

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Ken

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74 Bronco 351W
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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__don't see much anything good for this.
As for swapping parts, ask "number dummy".
He might be able to help.
You can find him in/around the
_1967 - 1972 F-100 And Larger F-Series Trucks_ side.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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asking NumberDummy would be about the best thing to do. I think that the last year for the FE engines in trucks was 1976, so I don't think that the frame perches would be the same.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Find towers from a 76 or older, they should help you out alot in the swap department. If you have a welder, some steel, and a little bit of ingenuity, you could bolt up any engine combo you can dream up.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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I know for sure the 66 had the holes for 429-460 perches am pretty sure the holes are there for the FE,s but have not done it.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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i did the same swap about 30 years ago i put my 390/c6 from a 68 parklane in to a 79 supercab that had a 302/c4 if you look on the frame where the towers would mount there should be 2 or 3 sets of holes if you have the right towers you can put any engine trans combo in this truck the bottom holes should be the same my trans crossmember even worked with out mods
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
I know for sure the 66 had the holes for 429-460 perches am pretty sure the holes are there for the FE,s but have not done it.
You know for sure? How could a 66 anything have holes for 429/460 engines?

These engines were not introduced till 1968, passenger cars only. 429's were never installed in F100/350's.

No 460's were installed in F100/350's till 1973.

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I also want to swap my front end which is completely rebuilt, king pins and all.
Why would you want to swap a front end that has drum brakes over to a truck that has disc brakes?

Spindles, radius rods, I-beams, king pins, nothing is the same after 1972.

Keep the discs, forget about using that drum brake front end.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

Why would you want to swap a front end that has drum brakes over to a truck that has disc brakes?

Spindles, radius rods, I-beams, king pins, nothing is the same after 1972.

Keep the discs, forget about using that drum brake front end.
I have seen Bump-sides 2WD with disc brakes on the 3/4 ton trucks, 68-ish thru 72. Not any of em showed signs of being swapped out. 4x4's and 1/2 tons on the other hand, drum brakes, YUK!

For those who wanna know, the easiest way to convert drum to disc is to swap out the entire I-beam assembly from the pivot out, and change the master cylinder.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis

For those who wanna know, the easiest way to convert drum to disc is to swap out the entire I-beam assembly from the pivot out, and change the master cylinder.
Don't forget you also have to change out the proportioning valve too.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis
I have seen Dent-sides 2WD with disc brakes on the 3/4 ton trucks, 68-ish thru 72.

Not any of em showed signs of being swapped out. 4x4's and 1/2 tons on the other hand, drum brakes, YUK!
This thread has nothing to do with F250/350's.

You musta been in a hurry when you typed that 1968/72 trucks are dent sides.

The OP wants to swap his 1968 F100 2WD drum brake front end to a 1977 F100 that has discs.

Disc brakes were first offered in 1973 on F100's. Manual discs were standard, power discs were optional.

Previous years have drum brakes.

I am very well aware that 1968/72 F250 2WD's and F350 BUMPSIDES offered optional dual caliper power front disc brakes.

But what does that have to do with F100's, or what's being discussed in this thread?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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I guess had I looked at his sig. instead of trying to find the info in his post, I woulda caught the fact that the info I just posted was irrelevant. DOOH! One wrong answer RPOC!
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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Tony, I'm not perfect either.

You type lots of good info and have practical experience working with these trucks every day.

Practical experience by one in "the know" is a valuable asset on FTE.

I'd rep you for that admission, but I got that same old crap message: "You must spread the points around....."
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Wow, thanks for all the replies. Sorry for the confusion Numbers. I will clarify. I have a 68 that I swapped the front end out of a "73" for the discs, power steering, and power brakes about ten years ago. I rebuilt the front end at that time. I would almost bet that the frame has the holes...but....there is no room to see if they are there by looking in and under the truck currently.

At any rate, i've decided to attact the rust on my 68. Just like the look.

Appreciate all the replies.


Ken H.

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74 Bronco 351W
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Tony, I'm not perfect either.

You type lots of good info and have practical experience working with these trucks every day.

Practical experience by one in "the know" is a valuable asset on FTE.

I'd rep you for that admission, but I got that same old crap message: "You must spread the points around....."

I reped him for you ND!!
 
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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The bolt holes are there already, you just swap the I-beams out, just like you did before.

I would bet that if you were to go and check out a 73, a 76 and a 79, they will all have the same holes for motor towers. I am parting out a 73 that had a 360. If you want the towers, PM me.
 
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