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Duallies...
I know it's been beaten to death but..I'm already committed to a F350 CC, Long bed....I don't need the towing capacity of a dually that much but I love the look.
So, if I'm already committed to a big long truck that doesn't turn on a dime anyway, would there be another downside beside mileage and giving up the ability to drive through a car wash to go for a dually ?
As I said, I don't really need it but my desire for it reminds me of an old joke...do you know why dogs lick their ***** ? Just because they can...same idea.
Cheers,
So, if I'm already committed to a big long truck that doesn't turn on a dime anyway, would there be another downside beside mileage and giving up the ability to drive through a car wash to go for a dually ?
As I said, I don't really need it but my desire for it reminds me of an old joke...do you know why dogs lick their ***** ? Just because they can...same idea.
Cheers,
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From: Fredericksburg, VA
I have an '08 450 with duals and I have not found a drive-through I couldn't fit through; car washes, however, are another story- don't try it.
In '08, the 450 came standard with wide track and it was available as an option on the 350. The turning radius is so tight that you can almost rear end yourself- almost! My 1985 350 needed two football fields to turn in and it wasn't even a duallie.
Go to the dealers and try a truck with and without the wide track feature.
Good luck.
In '08, the 450 came standard with wide track and it was available as an option on the 350. The turning radius is so tight that you can almost rear end yourself- almost! My 1985 350 needed two football fields to turn in and it wasn't even a duallie.
Go to the dealers and try a truck with and without the wide track feature.
Good luck.
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I wouldn't get a dually unless you need it for towing capacity. It adds a lot of hassle from tires to where you can and can't go. Also, if you ever want to go with larger tires or a lift, doing it with a dually can get pretty tricky and very expensive.
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6 tires to keep up with is going to be your biggest hassle. I can't speak of car washes or drive-thrus as I haven't used either even when I had trucks that for sure could fit thru them. As far as getting everywhere else I don't have a problem with anywhere that I need to go, it's just the woman with the little sports coupe that wants to take her half out of the middle that gives me the biggest problem, or the person with that little car that parks at an angle in their parking spot.
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From: Western NC Mountains
Once you go Dually, you never go back :-)
While you may not think you need the extra capacity now, it sure is nice to have it when you need it. I find driving in a heavy rain storm and crosswinds are a dream, it always feels steady as a rock. Handling on the steep curvy mountain roads around here is truly fun since it feels so flat due to the wider track. Hooking up a bumper pull trailer with a 1500lb Tongue weight and watching it only go down an inch is pretty cool too. Yeah, it rides like a real truck when its empty, but I try to keep it "exercised".
Worrying about 2 extra tires that get changed every 40-50,000 miles on a $50K truck, your kidding, right???
Looking in the rear view mirrors and always seeing those great "hips".. PRICELESS :-)
Seriously, Peachboy if you already have a dually on the brain enough to even post this thread... you will be greatly disappointed every time you pass another dually if you get a truck with only 4 tires. Go ahead and get it out of your system, I have a feeling you will find any minor downsides will be greatly outweighed by all of the upsides.
While you may not think you need the extra capacity now, it sure is nice to have it when you need it. I find driving in a heavy rain storm and crosswinds are a dream, it always feels steady as a rock. Handling on the steep curvy mountain roads around here is truly fun since it feels so flat due to the wider track. Hooking up a bumper pull trailer with a 1500lb Tongue weight and watching it only go down an inch is pretty cool too. Yeah, it rides like a real truck when its empty, but I try to keep it "exercised".
Worrying about 2 extra tires that get changed every 40-50,000 miles on a $50K truck, your kidding, right???
Looking in the rear view mirrors and always seeing those great "hips".. PRICELESS :-)
Seriously, Peachboy if you already have a dually on the brain enough to even post this thread... you will be greatly disappointed every time you pass another dually if you get a truck with only 4 tires. Go ahead and get it out of your system, I have a feeling you will find any minor downsides will be greatly outweighed by all of the upsides.
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Duallies - positives & negatives
NEGATIVES:
1. Replace 6 tires instead of 4
2. Turns wide - can be hard to manuever
3. Wide body - bad for drive throughs and takes up entire parking space (and sometimes part of the other guys space)
4. Bigger rear axle - can be more expensive for replacement parts
5. Less fuel economy (MPG) - it drops a little for the extra drag on the ground and extra weight to spin
6. More expensive up front to buy
7. Higher taxes/insurance since higher rated GVWR
POSITIVES:
1. Looks very cool - chicks dig it!
2. Safer & more stable with a heavy payload (even if its in the same load range of the single rear wheel trucks)
3. Wide body - less chances to be involed in a roll-over
4. Higher load capacity - GVWR
5. Heavier curb weight - safer in an accident (bigger is better)
6. Toll roads will charge the same - they charge by number of axles, not by number of tires
1. Replace 6 tires instead of 4
2. Turns wide - can be hard to manuever
3. Wide body - bad for drive throughs and takes up entire parking space (and sometimes part of the other guys space)
4. Bigger rear axle - can be more expensive for replacement parts
5. Less fuel economy (MPG) - it drops a little for the extra drag on the ground and extra weight to spin
6. More expensive up front to buy
7. Higher taxes/insurance since higher rated GVWR
POSITIVES:
1. Looks very cool - chicks dig it!
2. Safer & more stable with a heavy payload (even if its in the same load range of the single rear wheel trucks)
3. Wide body - less chances to be involed in a roll-over
4. Higher load capacity - GVWR
5. Heavier curb weight - safer in an accident (bigger is better)
6. Toll roads will charge the same - they charge by number of axles, not by number of tires
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Duellys are a big boys toy , If youre haulin bye a duelly , you wont be disissapointed , They just feel safe , no jerking and pulling , it makes traveling so much less hectic knowing you got the extra tires to get the job done .
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You've got to be kidding right? My tires don't last 30k(actually the last 6 lasted me 26,459 miles(yes I actually keep track of that)), so for me it costs twice as much versus you.
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From: Rexburg ID
Henderson Wheel offers a dually conversion kit. It's spacers for front and rear axles. you have to buy the tires and wheels separately. The kit does not change the payload of the vehicle for better or worse. I sold a few of these kits to some dodge guys around here putting on flat beds. If you already have the truck, it may be to your benefit to just convert it over, then you can go straight for the custom wheels you want.
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From: Western NC Mountains
The point was if an extra $300 (even at every 26K miles) is not worth the extra capacity of a Dually that is up to you. I still feel it is very weak arguement between having a dually or not, but that's just my opinion.
Heck, my cars go thru tires every 5000-6000 miles (at $542 each), so it makes me laugh when I hear a comment about the cost of 2 extra $148 tires on a a dually even at 25k miles....especially given the advantages.
As with everything in life it is all a matter of perspective of each individual.
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
266 a tire and that's the cheapest around here for load E tires that are worth anything.
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My Tire dealer matches Tire Rack's prices... $147 for the OEM BFG Load Range E replacements. Might not be the choice of some, but I've never had a problem with BFG tires in 40 years.
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A
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My Tire dealer matches Tire Rack's prices... $147 for the OEM BFG Load Range E replacements. Might not be the choice of some, but I've never had a problem with BFG tires in 40 years.
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A