stock 460 carb
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stock 460 carb
iv got an 88 460 in a f250. The bell and air filter assembly is aftermarket from someone else. The only thing the carb says is holley and there is a number 80508-1 0588. What carbs came on these motors and where can i find a rebuild kit and about how much will it cost.
also where is the number on the block to find the year i could not find it.
also where is the number on the block to find the year i could not find it.
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Mat,
The 4180 vacuum secondary carb was only found until early '87 at which point the 460 became fuel injected. (the heads, intake and exhaust manifolds changed mid '87 model year)
You can get a rebuild kit from Holley, (**edit, Renew kit #37-1556, Trick kit #37-933**)
But I used a Standard Automotive Parts Hygrade rebuild kit.
Part #1479B, you should be able to get this through any auto parts store.
The 4180 vacuum secondary carb was only found until early '87 at which point the 460 became fuel injected. (the heads, intake and exhaust manifolds changed mid '87 model year)
You can get a rebuild kit from Holley, (**edit, Renew kit #37-1556, Trick kit #37-933**)
But I used a Standard Automotive Parts Hygrade rebuild kit.
Part #1479B, you should be able to get this through any auto parts store.
Last edited by ArdWrknTrk; Nov 8, 2008 at 08:27 PM. Reason: Add Holley part #'s
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don't go by the block number to determine the year.
the block number (probably D9TE) only indicates the year the block was first used and designed. the D9TE block was used from about mid 79 till the end of the 460 production, so the block could be original to the truck.
there is another casting numbe on the block that will tell you the exact date and year the block was cast, but i am not sure where that is located.
rgds
Mike
the block number (probably D9TE) only indicates the year the block was first used and designed. the D9TE block was used from about mid 79 till the end of the 460 production, so the block could be original to the truck.
there is another casting numbe on the block that will tell you the exact date and year the block was cast, but i am not sure where that is located.
rgds
Mike
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My '87 has that design #.
According to Bill (NumberDummy) D9TE-6015-AB was used '79-'86.
I have heard that the later (fuel injected) blocks have slightly longer bores, but do not know this as a fact.
Look on the front of the engine for a stamped number, that will tell you when it was assembled.
According to Bill (NumberDummy) D9TE-6015-AB was used '79-'86.
I have heard that the later (fuel injected) blocks have slightly longer bores, but do not know this as a fact.
Look on the front of the engine for a stamped number, that will tell you when it was assembled.
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The Holley List 80508 was essentially a List 3310-2 carburetor (750 CFM, vacuum-secondary) with a Ford kickdown lever and electric choke. As others have stated, the 460 was EFI in '88, so Mat, some previous owner has made some changes. It looks like ArdWrknTrk was half-right...37-933 is the right number for a Holley Trick Kit (it appears that kit works on just about every Model 4150 and 4160 carburetor), but the Renew Kit for a List 80508 should be 37-754.
And yeah, the factory carb from '79-'87 was the Model 4180...this was essentially a List 0-1850 600 CFM/vac secondary carb, but with annular boosters and sealed idle mixture screws.
HTH,
Pat
And yeah, the factory carb from '79-'87 was the Model 4180...this was essentially a List 0-1850 600 CFM/vac secondary carb, but with annular boosters and sealed idle mixture screws.
HTH,
Pat
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Thanks for that clarification Pat!
I missed on the list #, but I do believe the kit I mentioned should be right for the "carbs that came on these motors".
Do you know what (if any) truck the 80508 carb would have come off of?
I missed on the list #, but I do believe the kit I mentioned should be right for the "carbs that came on these motors".
Do you know what (if any) truck the 80508 carb would have come off of?
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FYI, the 80508-1 is a 4160 carb and is hence after market and not the stock 4780 carb. It is a 750 CFM also compared to the 600 stock carb.
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I understood what it was, I just didn't know if it might have come from some pre, or non-emission vehicle.
I really appreciate the knowledge everyone so willing shares here on FTE.
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No problem, Mat...that's what we're here for.
Ard...I believe the 80508 is strictly an aftermarket replacement carburetor. I'd be surprised if it came on anything from the factory. But when you think about it, other than Ford trucks, baby T-birds, and a handful of '60s musclecars...how many vehicles came from the factory with a Holley?
No, wait...don't answer that...we don't need to get into a pis$ing contest here...
Pat
Ard...I believe the 80508 is strictly an aftermarket replacement carburetor. I'd be surprised if it came on anything from the factory. But when you think about it, other than Ford trucks, baby T-birds, and a handful of '60s musclecars...how many vehicles came from the factory with a Holley?
No, wait...don't answer that...we don't need to get into a pis$ing contest here...
Pat
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No problem, Mat...that's what we're here for.
Ard...I believe the 80508 is strictly an aftermarket replacement carburetor. I'd be surprised if it came on anything from the factory. But when you think about it, other than Ford trucks, baby T-birds, and a handful of '60s musclecars...how many vehicles came from the factory with a Holley?
No, wait...don't answer that...we don't need to get into a pis$ing contest here...
Pat
Ard...I believe the 80508 is strictly an aftermarket replacement carburetor. I'd be surprised if it came on anything from the factory. But when you think about it, other than Ford trucks, baby T-birds, and a handful of '60s musclecars...how many vehicles came from the factory with a Holley?
No, wait...don't answer that...we don't need to get into a pis$ing contest here...
Pat
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Huh! Reckon I learned something today. I was under the (obviously poor) assumption that GM was as frugal with Holleys as Ford was, opting to put Rochesters on most of their <ahem> "hi-po" stuff.
But Bear Was There...thanks!
Pat
But Bear Was There...thanks!
Pat
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actually all them used holley carbs at some point some of the mopar hipo stuff used them too like the dual 4 hemi's. and I am pretty sure that AMC used them on the 401s at least.
Just a little historic note the first factory fords with holley carbs where the model T's
Just a little historic note the first factory fords with holley carbs where the model T's
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actually all them used holley carbs at some point some of the mopar hipo stuff used them too like the dual 4 hemi's. and I am pretty sure that AMC used them on the 401s at least.
Just a little historic note the first factory fords with holley carbs where the model T's
Just a little historic note the first factory fords with holley carbs where the model T's
As to the Hemis, all the early ones had a pair of Carters on them. Only the late ones had Holleys.
The Chevy 302 had Holley(s) depending on which version you had, single or dual. The high horsepower 396, 427 and 454s all ran Holleys.