[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-Nov-02 AT 06:39 PM (EST)]Knobby460, Sorry man, but you'r full of it. Maybe you've had bad experiances with BFGs, but there are plenty of folks who love em, me included. No more than 6500 lbs huh? Then tell me how my 8800 lbs truck hasnt had a problem yet (even loaded with a goose neck) going through construction sites full of mud and rocks? If these tires dont self clean worth a crap then tell me why I'm able to get that truck trough my ranch during or after a rain? They're a great tire, sorry to hear you've had bad experiances with them. You'r the first person I've heard who didnt like their BFG's.

As far as the TRXUS, they aint "all that". They are a good tire, if you can keep a tread on them. A friend of mine had some of those. Over the course of about 3 months all 4 tires seperated at one point or another. Of course the manufacture warrentied them each time. He ended up going through 2 full pairs untill they finaly bought him 4 tires of his choice, so he got some Wranglers. Not the best choice in my opinion, but it wasnt my choice.
Since this happened to him I've heard of a lot of other folks with simular problems. I'm not trying to say their a crapy tire or anything, they just got a few bugs to work out still.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-Nov-02 AT 06:46 PM (EST)]First off, I don't think the TRXUS is available in a 16.5, like he wants. Secondly, he said "dunlop mud terrain, uniroyal mt, or comparable" Niether are exactly a MUD tire. The BFG is comparable and better than either he mentioned and come in a 16.5

 

I figured those comments wouldn't make me popular, but my trxus have lasted far longer than any of the bfg muds that I had before. I have TRIED to kill the trxus, as I want to move up in size, and I can't do it. As far as cleaning ability and road manners, I'll stand by my previous statements. I think the bfg tire is mainly so popular because people are buying into the name brand, kinda like Harleys. I know, it's only an opinion. Didn't mean to rile everyone up. I 'pologize! And by the way, my truck regular cab longbed sits at 6630 lbs. with four gallons of gas in it. Much lighter than a diesel 350, but heavy enough. I also 'pologize for the 16.5 misstep.

 

Popular or not you shared you personal experiance and that's what these types of boards are about. Sorry I jumped on ya like that. You along with everybody else have the right to say darn near what ever they want.

Anyway, back to tires, I just got done talking with a friend up in Oregon. He's been running Cooper mud tires for about 25000 miles and he had a good report about them. He seems to be happy with how they work on the ol loggin trails and such. And they are a bit cheeper He's got 33x12.50x15 on a 15x10 wheel. I dont know if they have them in a 16.5 or not

 

The BFG muds do ok on snow and ice but nothing great, I drove them once in the snow. They did get good reviews in deep/packed snow, but you're going to get nothing on ice, as the same with any kind of tire like this. For that reason, I have 4 studded snow tires that I put on my truck in the winter. They are 235/75/15 because a thinner tire does better on the snow. The snow tires do a great job in snow AND great on ice (studs or not) and it's worth the 50 I paid for each (firestone winterfires, which also ahve great reviews). I drive 98% on the street and I bought the BFG's for their reputation, not just their name. They are a very nice looking/agressive tire and is probably the best all around tire out there according to the magazine, and me. IMO you shouldn't have any kind of tire but snow tires on in the winter time. Lots of people don't realise the difference and i was amazed when I felt the difference. I didnt like the feeling of turning the wheels and still going straight, so I did something about it and now that situation has improved. They do ok in the rain, not spectacular but if you're careful you're fine. It's not any worse then a similar tire. It's just that these tires have no sipes and no place for the water to go like a rain tire, but it's still sufficient.


Primary rig is Green Thunder:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Flowmaster Exhaust, Sunroof, Clear corners w/ Diamond headlights, CD player with 2 10" subs and some 32" BFG Muds .

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Justin - One Happy FTE Member

 

I live in Texas, so this might sound kinda dumb to some of yall, but what is so differant about an all out snow/ice tire than with other tires besides the studs or holes to mount them? I'm not sure I've even ever seen a snow/ice tire before.

 

There are some basic construction differences - but the real difference is in the studs and they're ability to "bite" into ice and hard-packed snow - and KEEP on biting - can be tricky in a high-speed "panic"-stop on dry pavement though.

 

They have a softer compound, and are more sticky on the ice even w/o studs. The tread design is much different, geared to grabbing ice and snow. They have lots of small sipes and cuts in them. Go to a tire store and look at one.

Primary rig is Green Thunder:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Flowmaster Exhaust, Sunroof, Clear corners w/ Diamond headlights, CD player with 2 10" subs and some 32" BFG Muds .

Check out my Gallery for a look-see.


Justin - One Happy FTE Member

 

I have found that most people that down BFG's cant afford them...

 

I'm not looking to fight, but when called out....
Affordability doesn't matter. My trxus ARE cheaper in price, however, I've had two sets of BFG mud terrains. The money really doesn't matter. The fellow with the Coopers or somebody with a co-op brand mud tire and loves his tires will second that. What does matter is sitting on a cold muddy trail switching out tires because a root has violated my BFG sidewall. My point remains the same, a mud tire is not only required to GET you to the trail, but also to MAKE it through the trail. As stated above, I had two sets of the bfg muds before, and I had all terrains previous on another Ford truck. My current opinions on bfg tires were formed when I began to use my truck more seriously, and began to have tire problems. I again stand by my OPINION that BFG Muds are great street tires.
Please do not judge those you do not know. This post is about tires, not a person's financial status.

 

I again stand by my OPINION that BFG
>Muds are great street tires.
> Please do not judge those you do not know. This post is
>about tires, not a person's financial status.

Well said and I can respect that.
I'm sure I have opinions of products that I have had bad luck with that others would praise.
You are talking from your expierence with the product which is all that can be asked.

 

Did you have the old version Mud, or the new one? The new one is much better, which are the ones that I have.


Primary rig is Green Thunder:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Flowmaster Exhaust, Sunroof, Clear corners w/ Diamond headlights, CD player with 2 10" subs and some 32" BFG Muds .

Check out my Gallery for a look-see.


Justin - One Happy FTE Member

 

hey now... woah!

wasnt intending to "fight" nor "call ANYONE out"...
"I" .. (like you) was just stating what experience I have had ,,, I personally like my BFG's .. and have had people commenting at car washes, dealerships, tire/lift stores comment on the looks of my Excursion with the BFG's and say stuff like they arent worth the money and they prefer their "Durango's" or Desert Dueller's or whatever.. ive driven on LOTS of tires myself and would have always preferred to drive on BFG's could I have afforded to.. blah blah .. anyway I meant no offence to anyone on this site...... thanks Guy

 

Someone mentioned the Cooper M/T tires, and I have heard good things about them. There are a bunch of other companies that sell Cooper tires under their own name (I think Dunlop is one of them, not sure). One is the "Futura" brand that you see at Pep Boys, and the M/T's are the same tread as Cooper's discovery m/t (including the pinholes for ice studs).

I was wondering if anyone ever used these and if so, have seen any quality issues with them. I have read some real horror stories about the futura stuff, but it was mostly on passenger car tires.


Also, in defense of not knowing what a snow tire looks like, it's not as easy as walking in a store and looking. Texas just doesn't carry them, cept maybe near El Paso. It's like looking for a surfing shop in North Dakota . I know schools in Houston are cancelled just on a forcasted freeze warning

 

Well, I figured that if you were asking about snow tires, you were i an area of the country that snow tires were needed, in which stores would carry them as they do around here.


Primary rig is Green Thunder:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Flowmaster Exhaust, Sunroof, Clear corners w/ Diamond headlights, CD player with 2 10" subs and some 32" BFG Muds .

Check out my Gallery for a look-see.


Justin - One Happy FTE Member