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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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'77 F250 engine question

Hi I could use some help here
I got a 77 F250 I'm gonna start restoring, it has a 351M that WAS stuck. I got it freed up just recently.
I came across a 4.6L that will be coming out of a 96 ford crown vic {ex police cruiser}. The engine has approx 100k miles,
Should I put the money into the 351M or should I go with the 4.6L? My knowledge on what will fit, and what would be more economical to repair is my shortfall I heard the 4.6 can be built up pretty nicely
Would the 4.6 fit without really modifiying mounts? How hard would it be to get a bell housing that will match up the 4 speed I have in the truck? What about hooking up the new fuel injection system vs. carb, and electronics?
I could really use some help here
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I'll try to send in photos as the tear down begins
 

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Can DO
Hi I could use some help here
I got a 77 F250 I'm gonna start restoring, it has a 351M that WAS stuck. I got it freed up just recently.
I came across a 4.6L that will be coming out of a 96 ford crown vic {ex police cruiser}. The engine has approx 100k miles,
Should I put the money into the 351M or should I go with the 4.6L? My knowledge on what will fit, and what would be more economical to repair is my shortfall I heard the 4.6 can be built up pretty nicely
Would the 4.6 fit without really modifiying mounts? How hard would it be to get a bell housing that will match up the 4 speed I have in the truck? What about hooking up the new fuel injection system vs. carb, and electronics?
I could really use some help here
Can Do
I'll try to send in photos as the tear down begins
From my experience as a Police Officer, you don't want an ex-police motor. Here's why: The engines run ALOT and it's usually 1 of 2 ways. It's either idle, or full throttle. And I can tell you that the factory 4.6L motors have a hard time moving a vehicle as heavy as your truck. Crown Vic's aren't small, plus the weight of the electronics, cage, etc. You can find used 460's everywhere if you really want to swap motors. And it sounds like you would be refreshing the 4.6L anyway. Why not swap to a bigger motor?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Why not swap out the 351m crank and pistons for a 400. Quicker/easier way to more HP/Torque.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Why not swap out the 351m crank and pistons for a 400. Quicker/easier way to more HP/Torque.
:werd: What he said
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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351! One of my favorite motors next to the 302s
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Well if you do

move away from the 351... I might be looking for some parts so I can convert mine back to stock.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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With embarrasment................ I must admit this will be the first ford v8 I will have in a truck. My father baptised me in a 74 f100 with a 240. I beefed up the chassis to a 3/4 ton and inherited my fathers 300/6.
It was sh** luck I came across this deal with the 96 crown vic. Please tell me more about getting the most bang out of my buck on the 351m
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Can DO
With embarrasment................ I must admit this will be the first ford v8 I will have in a truck. My father baptised me in a 74 f100 with a 240. I beefed up the chassis to a 3/4 ton and inherited my fathers 300/6.
It was sh** luck I came across this deal with the 96 crown vic. Please tell me more about getting the most bang out of my buck on the 351m
Use the search function at the top of the page. 351m to 400. You'll find lots of info.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Russ,
Thanks for the replywhat does that phrase mean at the bottom of your name?
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Russ,
Thanks for the replywhat does that phrase mean at the bottom of your name?
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Get your rotating assembly balanced while you are at it, and get your heads worked. :twothumbs:

Mebbe even get your crank offset ground, make it a 427 or something..
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UTfball68
This is what I'm doing with my 351M and it will have 347 hp/442 tq

Holley 4150 650 cfm carb- $379
Eddy Performer Intake- $219
TMI 400 crank- $199
TMI .030 over Hyper pistons- $243
Hooker Headers- $169
.030 over bore- $30 per cylinder ($240)
Comp Cams XE262 Kit- $420

These are the basics, and basically doubles stock HP/TQ ratings. Not too bad for just south of $2000. Then another $200 in shipping, and if you have a shop do the build, add another $1500.
Out of curiosity where are you gettin your parts?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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I'm not sure what kind of mess I will get into with this 351m. When my brother parked the truck, nothing was prepped for winter or storage, at the time he was experiencing difficulties with the holly 4bbl carb. It must have been sitting for 10 years. When I got it there was no coolant in the radiator, I am worried about internal damage
The engine was stuck,but I got it moving again.
This evening my brother said that when he bought the engine from the junk yard, they told him it was 351 with the beefed up parts to make it a 400. What should I look for to make the determination if I have a 400?
 
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