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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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Custom MPG tune?

(I'm kinda hoping for the 5-star tuning guy to chime in. )

So I'm driving my Excursion today and I got to thinking... (dangerous)

GM has recently made the injector shut-off strategy more "aggressive" on their new trucks. I notice mine shut off when coasting down steepish hills or if I've been coasting awhile. But there is no real set pattern that I can discern yet. BTW, my Scan Gauge II will display 9999 in the MPG field when they shut off.

Do you think this parameter can be changed to make it a bit more aggressive and do you think it would yield any positive results?

What would be the downside?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
(I'm kinda hoping for the 5-star tuning guy to chime in. )

So I'm driving my Excursion today and I got to thinking... (dangerous)

GM has recently made the injector shut-off strategy more "aggressive" on their new trucks. I notice mine shut off when coasting down steepish hills or if I've been coasting awhile. But there is no real set pattern that I can discern yet. BTW, my Scan Gauge II will display 9999 in the MPG field when they shut off.

Do you think this parameter can be changed to make it a bit more aggressive and do you think it would yield any positive results?

What would be the downside?
That can be done,and it will be beneficial over the long term. There are many small tweaks that can be done for economy,but several of those tweaks affect driveability and smoothness. If you can deal with some lost smoothness,then you can save a slight bit in fuel cost over the long term. The biggest problem with manipulating every last parameter(esp the injector shutoff),is that every vehicle responds slightly different to those adjustments,and it's almost a custom tune situation with many hours spent getting it just right.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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That’s an excellent thought nothing dangerous about it. Johnny is correct those Coasting Fuel cut off parameters can be changed to be more aggressive but go too aggressive and you loose some smoothness when off/on go pedal.

When modifying on those parameters its best to make small changes to see how vehicle performs.

Some of the things that effect when coasting fuel cut off is activated and deactivated are:
MPH
Load
RPM
Close Throttle
Coolant Temp
 
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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I read an article that tested one of SCTs "Economy" canned tunes on an F-150. It said the a/f ratio was leaned out on low throttle or off throttle situations. The truck picked up like .2 or .3 mpg.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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The truck picked up like .2 or .3 mpg.
Is this the extent of improvement for our trucks?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BMF42
Is this the extent of improvement for our trucks?
On a V10 truck there are only minimal gains in economy. But there are HUGE gains in power/driveability improvement with no loss of economy with a proper tune.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
=But there are HUGE gains in power/driveability improvement with no loss of economy with a proper tune.
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With a tuner? If so, which one?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BMF42
With a tuner? If so, which one?
It's not so much the tuning device as it is the person making the files on that tuning device.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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was the injector shut implimented on the '05 up v10s? cause i dont feel jack coasting down hills or whatnot on mine. its an '04 btw
 
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by motometal04F350
was the injector shut implimented on the '05 up v10s? cause i dont feel jack coasting down hills or whatnot on mine. its an '04 btw
That function is on all of them,and is used in different applications to varying degrees of injector shutdown.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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cool. i have heard different stuff from everyone out there on my truck. but i would be very interested in tuning it to save me some gas.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:53 AM
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Injector shutdown and startup is fairly seamless however it can be felt. If you have a scangauge you can easily see when the injectors are shutoff and when they are on when monitoring mpg.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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I now have confirmed that a good tune can help. We took a 750 mile run around western MT over the weekend. Averaged 2.5 mpg on the trip. Ranged from 12.1 bucking a wind to 13 on a tank that probably only saw 70 mph a couple times but included quite a bit of stop and go stuff.

With stock tune the windy run would have been in high 10s or low 11s. 13 mpg was just a dream. Never happened. The 5 to 10% increase is a nice bonus. Will pay for the tuner in about one year. Best part is still the performance.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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2.5? You might wanna disengage the parking brake when you drive.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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how hard is it to tune the injector shutdown sequence?
 
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