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Is anyone having any problems with their 07 stock headbolts/studs (whichever they are) or head gaskets? Tuner vs no tuner, mods or stock? Just wondering as I read that earlier 6.0's are having trouble with them.
Well with that said, It leaves me to wonder why didn't Ford change something if they knew it was a problem with the previous years. I wonder if my truck is setting me up for failure.
Well with that said, It leaves me to wonder why didn't Ford change something if they knew it was a problem with the previous years. I wonder if my truck is setting me up for failure.
Technically speaking I think it would be up to international to do the changes as they are the ones that ultimately have to pay for warranty claims unless something about the claim that they just say they won't pay for and it is their engine afterall.
They have, they cover the replacement under warranty.
If that is a response to my post above(as you did not quote the response you were answering if it wasn't the one right before it), then just fixing something under warranty isn't really a total fixing of the problem. That's just in a sense paying someone to be quiet(this case fixing their vehicle under warranty) for awhile.
put the head studs in it and you wont have to worry about it anymore
As long as the heads are true then usually this is correct, but if the heads are not within spec and are re-installed anyways, even with the studs you can end up with head gasket problems down the road. My truck is over 210k km's with no head gaskets but I still plan on doing the studs as soon as I can afford to.
As long as the heads are true then usually this is correct, but if the heads are not within spec and are re-installed anyways, even with the studs you can end up with head gasket problems down the road. My truck is over 210k km's with no head gaskets but I still plan on doing the studs as soon as I can afford to.
Not can, will. Trust me, that's what happened to me.
If that is a response to my post above(as you did not quote the response you were answering if it wasn't the one right before it), then just fixing something under warranty isn't really a total fixing of the problem. That's just in a sense paying someone to be quiet(this case fixing their vehicle under warranty) for awhile.
Dealersip does the work under warrantee and they feel it is the gaskets that are the problem. Why void a warrantee for the remain life of it by changing the bolts? Better to see if it is the OEM original gaskets 1st, IMHO.
Funny they also found the base plate gaskets bad and replaced all those too. Oil & filter change, coolant change, al warranteed. You go your road I'll go mine I guess.
Dealersip does the work under warrantee and they feel it is the gaskets that are the problem.
First off, just because they "feel" that it was the gaskets and not bolts that were the problem doesn't truly mean that what they did actually fixed the problem. Trust me, I have one dealership(not ford) tell my mom that they believed that they had fixed the problem, surprise surprise, she was back in there again for the same thing. Now if they said that the knew that it was the gaskets that were the problem, that's different. I don't pay mechanics to feel, I pay mechanics to know. I can feel what the problem is all by myself, I don't need to pay someone to do that for me.
Originally Posted by Lonewolftx
Why void a warrantee for the remain life of it by changing the bolts?
Changing factory bolts for another set of factory bolts will not void the warranty, however, when they do change from bolts to studs it is at the dealerships discretion as to rather or not they choose to do followups and submit paperwork for warranty(and take the chance that international will not fork over the dough because of aftermarket install on there). Now if your talking about changing out bolts period rather for another factory set or for a set of studs, they had to do that for your gasket work as TTY bolts by their very nature are single use bolts, if they reused them, then I wouldn't trust that dealership. It's hard to tell what you meant by the way you phrased that sentence, I could guess what you mean, but I could guess wrong.
Originally Posted by Lonewolftx
Better to see if it is the OEM original gaskets 1st, IMHO.
If it's gasket problems on there then more the likely it's due to install of the gaskets and not the gasket itself, now it can be a defect in the gasket, but I'm willing to bet it was just install error before that. I'm running stock gaskets with ARP studs and I have zero problems with regard to those two, so unlike the gasket problems that ford had with I believe it was the 2000-2004 mustangs(somewhere in that range I believe, I don't think it was that entire range) where it was actually a widespread design issue like in the case of the 6.0s TTY bolts. It is very well known that TTY design on the 6.0s is not good and if you already have the truck in the shop for head work, why not do something that it is widely accepted to being a true fix for this type of problem(if install is done correctly) then run the risk of having it happen again(rather or not the install was done correctly or not, you can still be back in the shop because of the TTY bolts, and the chances of being back in the shop when using ARP studs is only based on the chances of the shop doing a crappy install job).
In your case, the irony is when they put new gaskets in, they had to put in new bolts as the bolts are single use bolts, so really they can't say if it was the gaskets or the bolts because they would have changed out both at the same time.
Originally Posted by Lonewolftx
You go your road I'll go mine I guess.
I would rather pay to have it fixed right and not worry about it, then have to go in multiple times under warranty and still run the risk of being back in the shop after warranty for the same thing and that time it being on my dime. It is cheaper in the long run for me to do it that way then it is for. I use my truck, so I actually lose more money doing multiple warranty works then I do for using known fixes and I don't have the luxury of a commuter vehicle like most people on this board(rather it's a beater or not, it is still a second vehicle). Now granted this has to be evaulated on an individual basis and what the bottom line for me, may not be everyone else, but I would speculate that more likely then not if you used the truck(not just a cool commuter vehicle) this would also apply to "you" if you worked the math.
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