Overloaded?
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Overloaded?
Returning from seasonal site with 5er in tow, I pulled in to a weigh station to see what it weighed. Was greeted by a trooper, he helped by shouting out the numbers as I put the wheels on the scale, then i was on my way. I had thought I would be overweight & I think I was, my Question is how bad? I didn't want to stick around and ask the trooper any questions, and I got the feeling he wanted me out of the too.
The numbers are: Front 3,700
Rear 6,000
5er 10,600
The truck weighs 6,660 (at a different scale)
5er has gvwr of 14,000
The door sticker on the truck reads:
Front 4,400
Rear 7,400
GVWR 10,000
I believe the CGWR is 20,000
All these numbers really confuse me, any help in sorting them out would be greatly appreciated.
The numbers are: Front 3,700
Rear 6,000
5er 10,600
The truck weighs 6,660 (at a different scale)
5er has gvwr of 14,000
The door sticker on the truck reads:
Front 4,400
Rear 7,400
GVWR 10,000
I believe the CGWR is 20,000
All these numbers really confuse me, any help in sorting them out would be greatly appreciated.
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Returning from seasonal site with 5er in tow, I pulled in to a weigh station to see what it weighed. Was greeted by a trooper, he helped by shouting out the numbers as I put the wheels on the scale, then i was on my way. I had thought I would be overweight & I think I was, my Question is how bad? I didn't want to stick around and ask the trooper any questions, and I got the feeling he wanted me out of the too.
The numbers are: Front 3,700
Rear 6,000
5er 10,600
The truck weighs 6,660 (at a different scale)
5er has gvwr of 14,000
The door sticker on the truck reads:
Front 4,400
Rear 7,400
GVWR 10,000
I believe the CGWR is 20,000
All these numbers really confuse me, any help in sorting them out would be greatly appreciated.
The numbers are: Front 3,700
Rear 6,000
5er 10,600
The truck weighs 6,660 (at a different scale)
5er has gvwr of 14,000
The door sticker on the truck reads:
Front 4,400
Rear 7,400
GVWR 10,000
I believe the CGWR is 20,000
All these numbers really confuse me, any help in sorting them out would be greatly appreciated.
3700
6000
10600
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20300
If your fresh water tank is full you could drain that and be awefully close to 20000 depending on how many gallons it holds
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From: Simpsonville, KY
Yup, 500lbs over gross combined weight, fine with everything else. I wouldn't worry a heartbeat about that 
All the ratings that matter as far as the law is concerned you were fine with (assuming your truck is registered for more than 21,000lbs).
All the ratings that matter as far as the law is concerned you were fine with (assuming your truck is registered for more than 21,000lbs).
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Per your numbers...while you are in fact over on GCWR...Personally I wouldn't worrry about that rating for a minute as that is mostly just a 'performance' rating by the manufacturers.
The important ones IMO you are under on.
GAWR's and GVWR.
The GVWR is typically what the manufacturers rate a vehicle for from a stopping and cooling standpoint...
Per your numbers
You are UNDER on your GVWR for your truck by 300#'s (3700+6000=9700#'s)
Your axle weights are easy to compare from your numbers.
You are UNDER on the front by 700# (4400-3700)
You are UNDER on your rear by 1400# (7400-6000)
Looks like your PIN weight is 3040#'s (9700-6660). As long as you had similar weight INSIDE the truck when you got the 6660 number to when you weighed hitched up that is...
I'd say you are pretty much good to go in many ways.
Good luck!
joe.
The important ones IMO you are under on.
GAWR's and GVWR.
The GVWR is typically what the manufacturers rate a vehicle for from a stopping and cooling standpoint...
Per your numbers
You are UNDER on your GVWR for your truck by 300#'s (3700+6000=9700#'s)
Your axle weights are easy to compare from your numbers.
You are UNDER on the front by 700# (4400-3700)
You are UNDER on your rear by 1400# (7400-6000)
Looks like your PIN weight is 3040#'s (9700-6660). As long as you had similar weight INSIDE the truck when you got the 6660 number to when you weighed hitched up that is...
I'd say you are pretty much good to go in many ways.
Good luck!
joe.
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Not in FL either. you are exempt from getting a CDL to drive one but not from paying your due in registration.
Just make sure you are registered to 21K lbs and you're good to go.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Spokane, WA
I want to thank everyone that replied to this thread. I feel much better knowing how others feel about my overweight situation. I think in Washington state we are exempt from weight fees for RVs. I looked at my registration and I am only paying for 10,000#, I'll have to check and see what it would cost to go up to 21000#, or just stay out of states that I wouldn't be legal in.
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From: Florida
Here in Indiana...your non-commercial vehicle registration is typically for the TRUCK only...the tags on our trucks which state 10,000#'s means that the TRUCK is physically registered to weigh a maximum of 10,000#'s and that includes when hitched.
Registering for the gross combined weight I believe is a commercial thing...like semi's registered for a GCW of 80,000#'s...
All I can mention is for non-commercial vehicles here in Indiana...
Good luck.
Joe.
Registering for the gross combined weight I believe is a commercial thing...like semi's registered for a GCW of 80,000#'s...
All I can mention is for non-commercial vehicles here in Indiana...
Good luck.
Joe.
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I want to thank everyone that replied to this thread. I feel much better knowing how others feel about my overweight situation. I think in Washington state we are exempt from weight fees for RVs. I looked at my registration and I am only paying for 10,000#, I'll have to check and see what it would cost to go up to 21000#, or just stay out of states that I wouldn't be legal in.
me on this but I don't think we have to comply with ALL 50 state towing laws, just the ONE we're registered in.ab
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I can't imagine that would make me illegal if I were to travel to any other state.
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On my SUV since I have passenger vehicle plates (i.e. no weight sticker)...I believe that I'm technically registered up to the GVWR on the door jamb sticker that Ford put on my vehicle...which for me is 8900#'s of Excursion...combined weight is not important as long as my trailer is registered...and it is...but even that has NO weight restriction except for the mfg applied tag that says 9200#'s...
Joe.
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I suppose the best way to find out is to go look it up, which I did after I made my previous post and began wondering if I was actually correct.
This is what the Oregon DMV has to say... Oregon DMV Passenger Vehicles
So the way I read this, I'm OK as long as I don't haul enough cargo to put me over 10,000 pounds. But that cargo doesn't include things like campers or travel trailers. Since my truck weighs about 7500-8000 pounds, I should legally be able to haul 2000-2500 pounds. If I go over that, then technically I guess I'm not legal. My camper puts me at 10,750, but it doesn't count.
Of course, this is Oregon. I'm sure every state is different.
I guess the result of all of this is if you're not sure, ask your state Department of Motor Vehicles.
This is what the Oregon DMV has to say... Oregon DMV Passenger Vehicles
Passenger registration is generally issued for a motor vehicle when:
- Its design and main use is to transport persons, and
- Its registration* weight is 10,000 pounds or less, and
- It is not required by Oregon law to be registered as another type of vehicle, or prohibited from being registered, and
- It meets federal standards for highway use.
- Pickups or SUVs that are 10,000 pounds or less registration* weight usually qualify for passenger registration. Those that are over 10,000 pounds must register as a heavy motor vehicle (T plates). If a passenger-plated vehicle's registration* weight temporarily exceeds 10,000 pounds, it may qualify for operation with a Registration Weight Trip Permit.
- It is illegal for a passenger-plated vehicle to pull a heavy trailer, or operate at a registration* weight over 10,000 pounds, unless it is operating under the appropriate trip permit.
- Campers
- Fixed loads
- Light trailers (loaded weight of 8,000 pounds or less)
- Manufactured structures
- Special use trailers
- Towed motor vehicles
- Travel trailers
Of course, this is Oregon. I'm sure every state is different.
I guess the result of all of this is if you're not sure, ask your state Department of Motor Vehicles.
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From: Simpsonville, KY
SOME laws DO apply regardless of where you are... such as the total length laws, doubles laws, etc. Others don't, such as registration weight (NH is the same way... there is just one type of plate for non-26k+ commercial trucks).