Call me crazy, has anyone used a spool on the street? I know in a short w.b. truck I could have my hands full. The reason I ask this question, Midwest Motorsports sells a complete 9in. center with gears and a spool allset up for around $425+ship.

Bill

 

Ah hell, here we go again. Yes, people have runs spools on the street, and no I wouldn't advise it. Search this forum and you'll find this topic covered several times and then you can make up your own mind.

If your knuckles ain't bleeding you did something wrong.

'72 F-250 "Hi-Boy" 4x4, Dana 60/HD44, FE390 @ 400hp(purt near!), 4-speed, custom suspension w 4" lift, mud on black.

 

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Damn, you don't have to be a XXXXXXXX about it proeliator.
But, I have a spool in my truck and i'd advise to do it, if it's not a *daily* driver. You'll chearp the tires when on corners but nothing big.

 

IF you want a spool, you could just weld the gears on yours of have them welded. I think I've seen spools for $49. I'd opt for the $49 one because you might want to change back.

 

There's two major drawbacks with spools:

1)You're tires will wear faster due to their inability to negotiate corners correctly (outside tire must travel further).

2)Premature spider gear or axle shaft wear due to the added stress of the above mentioned.

If you plan on doing any street driving other than driving to the trail, I would advise against a spool. The added wear and tear on other drivetrain parts will end up costing you double what a good locking differential would in the long run.

TrailDawg
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1993 F150 2WD
4.9L-Auto
Pro-Comp Stage-2 6" lift
Auburn Pro-Series Diff. w/4.30:1 gears
35x12.50x15 General Grabber MT's
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Mr. Ken Payne wrote me a e-mail and said that I should say sorry to proeliator because he's a XXXXXXXX. So I will. Sorry I'm a ********.


(Admin Note: He ought to realize that his IP address is logged for all his postings and I know which ISP he's coming from. This child is being reported as he's not grown up enough to be using public forums.)

 

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 24-Mar-01 AT 11:14 PM (EST)[/font][p]I really shouldn't respond to your infantile post, and I refuse to join you in the shallow end of the gene pool with pathetic insults. I will let you know that if you insist on being a punk you'll end up booted of these boards.

If your knuckles ain't bleeding you did something wrong.

'72 F-250 "Hi-Boy" 4x4, Dana 60/HD44, FE390 @ 400hp(purt near!), 4-speed, custom suspension w 4" lift, mud on black.

 

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 25-Mar-01 AT 11:44 PM (EST)[/font][p]"you in the shallow end of the gene pool "
"I don't care what blockheads think"
"dip*****s out there "
"I'll be sure to look for you in the "Darwin Awards". "

'mister high moral ground' you are not 'mr proeliator'. you seem to cast stones real quick from your glass house. seems like only child syndrome. you are aware that others are permitted different opinions than your own?

sorry traildog but spools dont usually have side gears so how do they wear quicker? welding the side gears to the carrier can have negatives such as warping the ring gear mount or in welding them out of true. you can fill the gear voids in like the pictures on my http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...a=11208763&f=0 photopoint album.
as for tire wear my detroit has an appetite for tires so as i have posted previously i would rather trade the 30-90 degrees of backlash (as written in the operators manual from detroit manufacturer) for a slight increase in tire scrub.

 

I run a spool on my DAILY DRIVEN F-100. I absolutely love it. The negatives are very minor. The inside tire will chirp on tight turns (a detroit will do that) but on like curvy roads and such it's almost completely transperent. the only way you know it's there most of the time is the steering will pull slightly as it wants to return to center. It's very minor and very easy to get used to. The traction is great. I can lift a wheel high into the air and still just creep right through. Spools make it easy to drive eligantly in off camber situations. I haven't had it too long (2 months or so) but the tire wear seems to be minimal, and I'm running swampers. I really believe that people that don't like spools, never ran them. They are easily the most traction for the dollar you can get. I bought a mini spool cause I figured that if I didn't like it I could put the spiders back in and no harm done. Well, I don't even know what I did with the spiders and I really don't care cause I love my spool and there's no way I taking it out. If you have any more questions post on here or e-mail me at carnut89(No Email Addresses In Posts!). I know it's really hard to find someone w/ firsthand experiance w/ a spool. I had the same problem when I started contemplating running a spool. I'd say get one, you won't regret it.

 

Just as I suspected, "MJ", "Drago", and probably f100 are all the same person with the same complex (my apologies to you f100 if I am incorect). Look fellah, I'm not clear why you are so threatened by me, or why you want so desperatly to convince me you can spool a toyota front and rear and have it corner just dandy on ice. You sound like a broken record, the personal attacks are pathetic (these from an anonyomous user), and I'm through wasting my time on you and this thread. If it makes you happy I'll consider to stop telling people to read all the available information and develop their own opinion since thats what seemed to upset you to begin with. On second thought, naw, I'd rather people were educated and thoughtfull than have to soley rely on the opinions of people like you. Nuff said, toodles.

If your knuckles ain't bleeding you did something wrong.

'72 F-250 "Hi-Boy" 4x4, Dana 60/HD44, FE390 @ 400hp(purt near!), 4-speed, custom suspension w 4" lift, mud on black.

 

WOW! I never thought I would open such a can of worms! We all have our own opinions , pro and con, about everything. Thanks to all who answered my post , pro and con, if I decide to get the spool I will surely let you all know how I like it. I am on a limited budget and thought this would be the most economical of all the traction devices on the market , I will evaluate all the responses and every other option available,again. Thanks again for all the feedback!
BILL

 

>Just as I suspected, "MJ", "Drago",
>and probably f100 are all
>the same person with the
>same complex

Hey, how did I get drug into this??? I am an outside party on this argument. I do have a spool and figured this guy might want an honest, unbiased opinion. If I said something that stepped on your toes I'm sorry. That definately was not my intention. Well, no hard feelings on my behalf. Keep on truckin and such

 

I have an ARB air locker installed in my 89 F150 4X4 rear axle. Locking the axle on the trail in mud allows forward progress in some very nasty situations. However using it locked on the street is not advisable. No benefit, unless you want to make chirping noise while going around corners, or for straight line traction while accelerating. You will wear out tires faster than normal and put unnecessary stress on axles and bearings. Also the tendency to slide sideways on icy or snow covered pavement is much greater. I guess it could be exciting though! I've been stuck on ice with 2 wheels on the same side slipping, engaging the locker allows enough traction to move, it has saved me a number of times. A locked axle is awesome when you need it, but not practical on pavement.
I've read threads that Tractech is coming out with an electromagnetic locker? Thier website has no info. Any ideas where there is some info.?
Mark

 

proeliator, your paranoid dillusions are getting out of hand. i post under this name on this site and several others. i use this name when my real name is previously taken, these are my initials. i use 1 name on a site. i am not threatened by you at all, this other person you refer to may or may not be threatened by you but i assure you i am not. if someone disagrees with you, you shriek like an old woman calling people names and questioning their gene pool and when someone responds you try and claim you wont stoop?? if you remember i DONT have a spool in my truck, they dont make a spool for a dana 70 that i am aware of, if they did i would DEFINATELY get it as i have a buyer for my difs and gears right now. you dont have nor have you ever had a locking dif so why do you insist on answering these posts. you have nothing to add to the discussion other than your 'chicken little the sky is falling' routine.

wlmgshap, you didnt open a can of worms, you asked a legitimate question and you got railroaded by a small mind. for the straight skinny i would take f100 up on his email offer as it is real hard to get actual first hand information with the shrill sound of an internet nanny. i know how hard it is as i am trying to find the truth about detroit lockers in steering axle applications, everyone has doom and gloom stories but has never owned one.

hey f100 have you been back to truckworld.com? they redid the format and seems like they booted those idiots off, come on back and check it out, it feels good there again.