Got shop estimates on damage
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Got shop estimates on damage
I took my truck to acouple of body shops today saying the dent was a hit and run.
The estimates were around 800 to 900 to fix. Yet SGI says 1300 to 1500. These shops sure make a profit from insurance claims. They did even when I worked in the shops back in 80-81.
I did this out of curiousity.
I also asked about fixing rust on the extend cab on the left. I got from anywhere from500 to a 1000 to fix the little rust spots that appeared this year. They talked about replacing the panel with a patch panel to just small patches.
I wanted to see how far I'm out of touch with the costs these days. I 'm still pretty close to the ball park figures.
Anyways I got Fabians Autobody repairing the door. No extras. They will take pics of thw work being done for my history on the truck. He said the claim says no replacement for chrome trim or strips. No longer available. He will try and straighten the chrome trim.
He belongs to the Draggins car club and the 567 car club. He is restoring a 55 chev 2dr ht that I sold him atrunk and door for it. He has replaced the whole floor pan. So I know his workman ship. Besides he was offering mea job a couple of years ago when I was off work for a few months.
The estimates were around 800 to 900 to fix. Yet SGI says 1300 to 1500. These shops sure make a profit from insurance claims. They did even when I worked in the shops back in 80-81.
I did this out of curiousity.
I also asked about fixing rust on the extend cab on the left. I got from anywhere from500 to a 1000 to fix the little rust spots that appeared this year. They talked about replacing the panel with a patch panel to just small patches.
I wanted to see how far I'm out of touch with the costs these days. I 'm still pretty close to the ball park figures.
Anyways I got Fabians Autobody repairing the door. No extras. They will take pics of thw work being done for my history on the truck. He said the claim says no replacement for chrome trim or strips. No longer available. He will try and straighten the chrome trim.
He belongs to the Draggins car club and the 567 car club. He is restoring a 55 chev 2dr ht that I sold him atrunk and door for it. He has replaced the whole floor pan. So I know his workman ship. Besides he was offering mea job a couple of years ago when I was off work for a few months.
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Not Likely. Maybe some rural body shops will do this, but the ones in the city are so vusy they don't have to give extras to get business.
Besides I did this out of curiousity, not as a bargaining chip.
Besides I did this out of curiousity, not as a bargaining chip.
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Isnt that crazy how the body shops make money off of sgi like that?
Im glad your getting it fixed too, just too bad they cant find that trim.
Also for the rust repair, it sounds to me like you know what your doing just like any body shop would, with the truck being yours, you would probably do a better job too.
Im glad your getting it fixed too, just too bad they cant find that trim.
Also for the rust repair, it sounds to me like you know what your doing just like any body shop would, with the truck being yours, you would probably do a better job too.
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It is nice to see we still have the two tier charging system for Insurance repairs, not that this is news to me. SGI needs to set a rate system like they do in health insurance to eliminate some of this. I know they can't get rid of all of it and people have to make a living but you have to start somewhere.
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I remember a few years ago SGI cut the cost on a certain repair on the cars in the claims. The shops were all up in arms about it and trying to justify the cost. The shops lost. It was something rediculous. The shops were getting an extra 8 hrs pay for a repair that took a fraction of the time.
I remember when I worked in a shop a 1/4 panel replacement was listed as a 26 hour job and that is what the shop got paid for. We did it in 8 hrs. So the rest was profit.
Then SGI brings in inspections so the shops charge for that and say things on your vehicle don't pass. Yet they do. Now where is the watch dog to pull these shops in line.
Of course you here about overhead costs and they need to cover these costs.
I remember when I worked in a shop a 1/4 panel replacement was listed as a 26 hour job and that is what the shop got paid for. We did it in 8 hrs. So the rest was profit.
Then SGI brings in inspections so the shops charge for that and say things on your vehicle don't pass. Yet they do. Now where is the watch dog to pull these shops in line.
Of course you here about overhead costs and they need to cover these costs.
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I remember a few years ago SGI cut the cost on a certain repair on the cars in the claims. The shops were all up in arms about it and trying to justify the cost. The shops lost. It was something rediculous. The shops were getting an extra 8 hrs pay for a repair that took a fraction of the time.
I remember when I worked in a shop a 1/4 panel replacement was listed as a 26 hour job and that is what the shop got paid for. We did it in 8 hrs. So the rest was profit.
Then SGI brings in inspections so the shops charge for that and say things on your vehicle don't pass. Yet they do. Now where is the watch dog to pull these shops in line.
Of course you here about overhead costs and they need to cover these costs.
I remember when I worked in a shop a 1/4 panel replacement was listed as a 26 hour job and that is what the shop got paid for. We did it in 8 hrs. So the rest was profit.
Then SGI brings in inspections so the shops charge for that and say things on your vehicle don't pass. Yet they do. Now where is the watch dog to pull these shops in line.
Of course you here about overhead costs and they need to cover these costs.
All the while while the shops are making a nice profit, the rest of us has to pay more and more for our plates!
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actually, you'd be suprised at how cheap sgi really is... not paying out enough hours to do the job right, clear blends, not allowing parts to come off, putting aftermarket/jobber parts or used parts on you 4 year old vehicle... and the body shop gets blamed for it by the customer, when really its sgi's decision... then again you have the shop owner telling the employees to "just do it for free" which makes perfect sense because we can't eat for free... and another thing that tickles my pickle is that sgi pays out $58 per hour for body work and $97 per hour for paint time, but the owner doesnt pay the hard workers no were NEAR that... plus sgi pays for materials and all that good stuff...
so ya, the shop OWNERS make money, while the hard workers starve...
then the owners just get greedy and become cheap... more money for themselves
haha sorry im in a ranty mood
so ya, the shop OWNERS make money, while the hard workers starve...
then the owners just get greedy and become cheap... more money for themselves
haha sorry im in a ranty mood
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Yes, I shoulda made that more clear what I meant, the shop owners make the cash.
I know sgi is cheap too. They tried sticking an aftermarket cheapy bumper on our honda when it got rear ended. We went through three of them, each one busted up not even two days after it got installed and painted. We finally got sgi to put a honda bumper on, and boom all problems solved.
Perfection paint and body was the shop to do the work, and I though they did a good job, kinda second guessing them now though.
I know sgi is cheap too. They tried sticking an aftermarket cheapy bumper on our honda when it got rear ended. We went through three of them, each one busted up not even two days after it got installed and painted. We finally got sgi to put a honda bumper on, and boom all problems solved.
Perfection paint and body was the shop to do the work, and I though they did a good job, kinda second guessing them now though.
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thats another thing that makes absolutly no sense... how much money do you spend on multiple ****ty parts when you could spend a couple extra bucks and get a good quality one that you know will be problem free... and all the hours that are put into fitting those jobber parts doesnt make up for the few bucks saved on a factory part...
i worked in one shop where the owner bit the bullet on every single part, if sgi only paid for a jobber part, he'd get OEM just to skip the whole hassle... but thats quite a bit of money lost and its not fair to the shop..
as far as body shops go, they are all pretty much the same in my opinion.. some owners may be more pickier in some areas than others but for the most part they are pretty good... ya some shops might turn out crappy work, but i'll be honest, i put out some crappy work myself... not intentianally haha... and not all of it left the door because of the owner... but everyone has bad days, which inturn the job may not be "perfect" so i guess with a body shop just look and try and find an owner/manager who seems to be a little picky with something you want
i worked in one shop where the owner bit the bullet on every single part, if sgi only paid for a jobber part, he'd get OEM just to skip the whole hassle... but thats quite a bit of money lost and its not fair to the shop..
as far as body shops go, they are all pretty much the same in my opinion.. some owners may be more pickier in some areas than others but for the most part they are pretty good... ya some shops might turn out crappy work, but i'll be honest, i put out some crappy work myself... not intentianally haha... and not all of it left the door because of the owner... but everyone has bad days, which inturn the job may not be "perfect" so i guess with a body shop just look and try and find an owner/manager who seems to be a little picky with something you want
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This one buddy of mine got in an accident, and to rebuild part of his dash in his dodge truck, the used popsicle sticks lol.
I have no idea what shop that was or where it was, but isnt that crazy.
Then again, with dodge, it coulda been like that from the factory
I have no idea what shop that was or where it was, but isnt that crazy.
Then again, with dodge, it coulda been like that from the factory